I guess this would also mean tobaccopipes and cupojoes will go away or all be the same thing since Sutliff bought both out a few years ago and they already have p&c/CI.
Scandinavian Tobacco Group A/S to acquire Mac Baren Tobacco Company A/S
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Possibly, or STG keeps or sells them. It kind of depends on if they want to own a storefront.
Best case scenario would be it's just an acquisition and business as usual continues for MB/Sutliff and STG just takes their cut off the top (share dividends and share value) as just a diversifying and extra revenue stream.
But that'll never happen.
Their whole action plan, as laid out on their website, calls for "efficiency" and "performance culture"... which is C-suite double speak for cutting jobs, turning-over experienced people for "fresh talent" (basically laying off long-standing employees "making too much" from decades of raises for cheaper new people that have to start at the bottom of the earnings ladder), homogenizing production (various kept blends will start to taste more like what's in STG's profile rather than tasting like a MB blend or tasting like a Sutliff blend), etc. All the worst aspects of modern boards serving their shareholders at the expense of everyone else.
But that'll never happen.
Their whole action plan, as laid out on their website, calls for "efficiency" and "performance culture"... which is C-suite double speak for cutting jobs, turning-over experienced people for "fresh talent" (basically laying off long-standing employees "making too much" from decades of raises for cheaper new people that have to start at the bottom of the earnings ladder), homogenizing production (various kept blends will start to taste more like what's in STG's profile rather than tasting like a MB blend or tasting like a Sutliff blend), etc. All the worst aspects of modern boards serving their shareholders at the expense of everyone else.
When Pipes Magazine is assimilated by the STG blob, everyone who posted in this thread will be banned for life. Or maybe you'll be given the choice to become chattel.
I like a few STG products. My allegiance can easily be bought.
Did I say that Peter Stokkebye Luxury Navy Flake and Proper English are the bomb? Yes, they are! All hail our new STG overlords!
It’s my understanding it’s Vincent Manil‘s business, sole proprietor.
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I know we have lots who’ll tell us they have 14 lifetimes worth. Godbless ‘em and carry on.
The rest of you who don’t lie about such stuff really need to look at the whole leaf vendors.
The rest of you who don’t lie about such stuff really need to look at the whole leaf vendors.
On the positive side of things, there are a growing number of good artisan blenders, so I don't see our choices dwindling too much in the future - baring political agendas to ban continue to gain traction.
Stokkebye won’t be affected? What about Newminster 400 SNF?Did I say that Peter Stokkebye Luxury Navy Flake and Proper English are the bomb? Yes, they are! All hail our new STG overlords!
That means though that the ENTIRE Capstan fan club will go away with this buyout… unless they know better than to alter famous blend/tins of tobacco.
I hate to be a downer, but those artisan blenders are getting their ingredients from, in large part, Sutliff. So...we'll see what develops.
STG owns the Peter Stokkebye brand, while Mac Baren makes Newminster.
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I'm a curious cat. 
Has anyone dug into the online file cabinet of STG? I thought the Chairman's Report on April 4th of 2024 contained a good directional nod in how they might play their hand shaping things. Pages 3, 4, 7 & 8 were most interesting.
In brief, the report was about meeting climate sustainability numbers and increasing mechanized industrialization of cigars while pushing further into the Global Next Generation Tobacco Products Market. There was nothing in their literature that pointed to focusing on pipe tobacco other than acquiring existing real estate and putting profits towards their goals mentioned above (it seemed to me). GNGTPMs from what I could find are:
Global Next Generation Tobacco Products Market, By Device Type (e-Cigarettes, Vaps, Mods, e-Hookahs, Pens, Other), System (Open Vaping System, Closed Vaping System, Semi-Closed System, Other), Product Type (Tobacco Heating Products, Vapour Products, Snus Products, Other), Component (Atomizer, Vape Mod, Cartomizer, E-liquid, Battery, Other), Age Group (18-30 Age Group, 31-44 Age Group, 45-60 Age Group, 61 and Above Age Group), Distribution Channel (Online Buying, Retail Stores, Convenience Store, Drug Store, Newsstand, Tobacconist Store, Specialty E-cigarette Store, Other), Country (U.S., Canada, Mexico, Brazil, Argentina, Rest of South America, Germany, France, Italy, U.K., Belgium, Spain, Russia, Turkey, Netherlands, Switzerland, Rest of Europe, Japan, China, India, South Korea, Australia, Singapore, Malaysia, Thailand, Indonesia, Philippines, Rest of Asia-Pacific, U.A.E, Saudi Arabia, Egypt, South Africa, Israel, Rest of Middle East and Africa) Industry Trends and Forecast to 2028. Resource: Next Generation Tobacco Products Market – Global Industry Trends and Forecast to 2028 | Data Bridge Market Research - https://www.databridgemarketresearch.com/reports/global-next-generation-tobacco-products-market
Has anyone dug into the online file cabinet of STG? I thought the Chairman's Report on April 4th of 2024 contained a good directional nod in how they might play their hand shaping things. Pages 3, 4, 7 & 8 were most interesting.
In brief, the report was about meeting climate sustainability numbers and increasing mechanized industrialization of cigars while pushing further into the Global Next Generation Tobacco Products Market. There was nothing in their literature that pointed to focusing on pipe tobacco other than acquiring existing real estate and putting profits towards their goals mentioned above (it seemed to me). GNGTPMs from what I could find are:
Global Next Generation Tobacco Products Market, By Device Type (e-Cigarettes, Vaps, Mods, e-Hookahs, Pens, Other), System (Open Vaping System, Closed Vaping System, Semi-Closed System, Other), Product Type (Tobacco Heating Products, Vapour Products, Snus Products, Other), Component (Atomizer, Vape Mod, Cartomizer, E-liquid, Battery, Other), Age Group (18-30 Age Group, 31-44 Age Group, 45-60 Age Group, 61 and Above Age Group), Distribution Channel (Online Buying, Retail Stores, Convenience Store, Drug Store, Newsstand, Tobacconist Store, Specialty E-cigarette Store, Other), Country (U.S., Canada, Mexico, Brazil, Argentina, Rest of South America, Germany, France, Italy, U.K., Belgium, Spain, Russia, Turkey, Netherlands, Switzerland, Rest of Europe, Japan, China, India, South Korea, Australia, Singapore, Malaysia, Thailand, Indonesia, Philippines, Rest of Asia-Pacific, U.A.E, Saudi Arabia, Egypt, South Africa, Israel, Rest of Middle East and Africa) Industry Trends and Forecast to 2028. Resource: Next Generation Tobacco Products Market – Global Industry Trends and Forecast to 2028 | Data Bridge Market Research - https://www.databridgemarketresearch.com/reports/global-next-generation-tobacco-products-market
What are the chances that STG will keep both it's Assens and Mac Barens production plants going in Denmark? I suspect production of MB blends will be moved to Assens.
They'd have to hand back their MBAs if they don't consolidate! That's Mergers & Acquisitions 101!
New doesn‘t = bad, new = different!
I guess we’ll just have to wait to see what happens. I’m sure it won’t be the end of the world; but you know, McLellands went OOB and we got over it 
Some assholes are still smoking cellared FMC, but we won’t give them too hard of a time 
Some assholes are still smoking cellared FMC, but we won’t give them too hard of a time
The whole thing has less to do with who owns what and more to do with types of tobacco that are available to blenders and with the ever shrinking varietal availability one must expect change.
This is pure speculation, BUT…
My guess, based on STG’s past behavior, is that they will close Mac Baren, sell almost everything, maybe keep some equipment. Mac Baren will exist in name only, product will be as uniform as the rest of the STG line.
This is a consolidation. As the market shrinks, businesses close and a dominant company emerges.
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