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boston

Part of the Furniture Now
Jun 27, 2018
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I think this clearly makes my point that PM has the best collections of high end pipes on the internet.
There used to be a private site invitation only called the Common Sewers. It was one of the many rooms that was part of smokersforum.uk.

The Common Serves was a site where all high end pipes could be discussed without having to apologize for having that kind of money invested in pipes. I was a piker to those guys. My Rad Davis and other American artisan pipes smoked great and not once was I felt out.

There were some amazing pieces of work that you would never see anywhere else. There were a lot of heavy hitters from the pipe world and the conversations were very cool. I learned much of what I know now from those guys just as I learned a bunch of cool stuff from this thread.
I was a member of that group. We could post our pipes in a sort of personal collection library as I recall where other sewer dwellers could view. It was fun.
 

Alejo R.

Part of the Furniture Now
Oct 13, 2020
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Is there such a thing as a 2 to 8 grand (new unused) pipe as the OP has stated? I can’t imagine anyone paying more than a grand or two. That and every pipe in this thread doesn’t look worth over a grand (to me of course). Yeah they have nice grain but still…

Of course, I may just not have an eye for such things. But let’s admit it is a visual thing exclusively. Performance is irrelevant when 8/10 run of the mill pipes smoke just fine.

The only guy that comes close to being able to justify $1000+ is the guy with what was the most costly pipe 200 years ago. But even that…looks like any old pipe.

I’m not knocking you guys but I was expecting to see pipes with more precious metals, bedazzled with gemstones and crazier shapes.
Whether in pipes or any other good produced by man, the return on each dollar invested decreases with the amount. That is to say that the difference between a 50 and 100 dollar pipe will be very noticeable (a neophyte with some knowledge of manufacturing will be able to tell which is the best even if he has never seen a pipe before) the difference between a 100 and a 200 It will be noticeable but perhaps less and as the price goes up the differences will be more subtle. It should also be borne in mind that in a visual post there are many features that are not appreciated, such as the perfect mouthpiece, the drilling or the weight of the pipe, to give an example.
 
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TexJake

Starting to Get Obsessed
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Whether in pipes or any other good produced by man, the return on each dollar invested decreases with the amount. That is to say that the difference between a 50 and 100 dollar pipe will be very noticeable (a neophyte with some knowledge of manufacturing will be able to tell which is the best even if he has never seen a pipe before) the difference between a 100 and a 200 It will be noticeable but perhaps less and as the price goes up the differences will be more subtle. It should also be borne in mind that in a visual post there are many features that are not appreciated, such as the perfect mouthpiece, the drilling or the weight of the pipe, to give an example.
It is interesting to consider this value curve. As @Briar Lee pointed out in previous pages, luxury is somewhat contrived. Often by the manufacturer, but also by the consumer(s) of the product. I hope that my short response to his prior statement does not offend - upon re-reading I noticed that my hasty response comes off snippy, if not snarky, and I meant no affront or offense in my reply. My thought was more along the lines that this concept of high-end can end up being so ill-defined when talking to a group of collectors that assign value very differently, but there was an attempt at defining that range for this discussion. Some place value on age, rarity, or representation of a specific era. Others place value on the maker, artisan, or other branding along with the “weight” those particular names and stamps carry. Lots of discussion always comes up when the price tag is considered, as we all feel a little differently about our own value curve definitions.

I also agree that there is a whole host of other attributes that cannot be communicated via photos or even long-winded texts, and each of these attributes have their own sliding scale of importance and subtlety that only personal experience can define preference for. These factors all contribute to an individual’s assessment of value or worth, and as that is further defined for each of us, we can decide how much of our disposable income can be parted with in exchange for these tiny details that may not be important or even perceptible to others. Some of these factors include construction (and the myriad ways to change the experience and performance of the pipe, whether in style, shape, or the “engineering” of the pipe), balance, weight, grain orientation. Possibly one of the most common and significant factors is personal connection, whether to the pipe through use and familiarity and experience, or to the maker, or a connection that is important because of the manner in which the pipe came to be in a person’s collection (gift, inheritance, trade, souvenir purchase, etc). All of these make the “magic” for the smoker.
 

condorlover1

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Dec 22, 2013
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@Alejo R. Did you buy them from Disney World? It sort of gives a whole new meaning to the term 'Mickey Mouse Pipe'. I have seen these occasionally and I have read that there was a B&M shop in Disney World as well if my memory serves me correctly!
 
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