The Samuel Gawith Era
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Regarding the question of continuity, there was a Pipes Magazine blog post at the time of the merger which included a Q&A. One question touched on this topic.
I remember a time when 1792 had a very dirt like quality to the flavor and, yes, I’ve eaten my share of dirt as a child. Lol
Mike S.
Mike S.
I still get a very earthy quality to it but variation is the only constant in any blend. I agree with you that Bob’s Chocolate Flake tastes different from batch to batch, sometimes it’s heavily perfumed, sometimes I can hardly pick up on the scent but 1792 has been extremely consistent over the years in my personal experience.
A cursory examination of Samuel Gawith's finances gives a very different reason for the merger.
Here are GH's financials, for comparison
And look at that: Samuel Gawith was only incorporated in 1936, and now the company is dissolved. it no longer exists. None of their directors now serve on Gawith Hoggarth's board. This wasn't a merger, it was a buyout.
We've been over all of this in a previous post, too.
That’s interesting info, Woods. I always incorrectly assumed that Samuel Gawith was the more succeful company of the two.
Hi Dan,
Nice thread that link sent me to, funny as hell. My use of Gawith products is pretty much limited to FVF and SJF. And since my penchant for smoking urinal cake is somewhat limited, I'm not much of a consumer of GH tobacco products. So I haven'tupended, derailed, contributed to this neverending spirited discussion. I just wanted to thank you for the links. I am impressed with the myopic fanaticism, devoted loyalty displayed in this thread, without which pipe smoking would have died out long ago.
Nice thread that link sent me to, funny as hell. My use of Gawith products is pretty much limited to FVF and SJF. And since my penchant for smoking urinal cake is somewhat limited, I'm not much of a consumer of GH tobacco products. So I haven't
A few guys in my pipe club smoke nothing but GH&c twists. I’d bet they are responcible for them beating SG.
I’d also like to add that I’ve eaten dirt too. Not as a habit, as much as by mere chance. :
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I’d also like to add that I’ve eaten dirt too. Not as a habit, as much as by mere chance. :
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I have noticed that for some smokers(I am not pointing my finger at anyone here), smoking Lakeland scented blends is like a badge of honor. They crow about their love for all things Lakeland as if they are a more sophisticated pipe smoker. They look down their noses at people who don't smoke Lakelands like some people look down their noses at aromatic smokers. It is like they are saying " I can handle urinal cake flavors and you cannot".
I still remember that night a few years ago while I worked till almost 4am I fired up a few coins of Black Twist XX - it was very delicious when it first lit up. It tasted initially quite sweet, almost like some aged McClelland Virginia. But then here came some What the heck moment - it tasted like meat, like some sort of BBQ meat, like those Turkish and Arabs shops sell at the corner of the street, e.g. Döner, Schwarma. I even wondered SB might have added some deep-fried fat cooking oil into the tobacco.
I am a vegetarian but I still remember the smell and the taste of roasted meat, lamb or chicken... While I was pondering, Black Twist XX's true power came hit me - I experienced the strongest nicotine hit ever. Nightcap is nothing, Condor is perhaps a bit strong, but Black Twist XX was a sudden KO. I have since then cellared the tin.
I wonder if SG might have changed the recipe in the past 5-7 years.
I'm sorry but Lakeland isn't a scent. The term Lakeland refers to all the tobacco made in Kendal, scented or not.
This is more like a recipe variations than whining about straight virginias or vapers being tainted with Gawith Hoggarth scenting to get free tobacco
Yep, that's what I get from it. Char broiled beef. Don't get much of a nic hit off of it though. I really like mixing it 50/50 with ODF.
I remember trying XX and got that smoked barbecue thing. I wasn't blown away at the nicotine since I was still smoking cigarettes at the time. I tried it once more and then never again. I wish they would make a rope out of St James flake and FVF, those would be cool.
Of course Samuel Gawith blends have changed.
They are no longer made by Samuel Gawith.
It stands to reason that as Gawith Hogarth uses up old stock transferred from the now defunct historical Samuel Gawith factory to the industrial park where Gawith is located (next to the food factory and motorcycle shop, across from the office supply and pump company), you will find the Lakelands scent showing up more and more often in the SG-branded blends. You will also find the old SG blends changing as GH substitutes their leaf for the leaf that SG used.
They are no longer made by Samuel Gawith.
It stands to reason that as Gawith Hogarth uses up old stock transferred from the now defunct historical Samuel Gawith factory to the industrial park where Gawith is located (next to the food factory and motorcycle shop, across from the office supply and pump company), you will find the Lakelands scent showing up more and more often in the SG-branded blends. You will also find the old SG blends changing as GH substitutes their leaf for the leaf that SG used.
Hey atleast they aren't selling us repackaged Lane blends. Those claims are pure conjecture and perhaps motivated by conflicting business interests. The fact is this merger happened years ago and none of this come true. We've gotten new stock, and GH and isn't doing any of what woodsroad claims. Samuel Gawith has been around far far longer than 1936
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