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MilesDavis

Starting to Get Obsessed
Jun 16, 2022
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McLean, Il.
I was looking though my Kaywoodies and pulled out a couple of the older ones. The first is a "SuperGrain over Kaywoodie" #5109B with an elongated cloverleaf and no fitment (stinger). This is probably the oldest one I have:

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The second one, another "SuperGrain over Kaywoodie" #5191B has the four-hole stinger. Both of these are small pipes. For smoking purposes, I prefer a larger pipe.

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agnosticpipe

Lifer
Nov 3, 2013
3,412
3,832
In the sticks in Mississippi
I've had a few Kaywoodie pipes over the years, but I seldom smoked them because never was fond of the stinger. I kept these two because they are such oddballs to me. The bulldog I did a little cleaning on it because I couldn't see any stampings. Well guess what, there are no stampings on it because the shank has been replaced. It looks to be rather well done, although no effort was made to match the grain. Other than the clover on the stem the only other mark is the Drinkless stamping on the 4 hole stinger.
The little 8 panel Kaywoodie Standard pipe is different not only because of its shape, but also the made in England stamp on the right shank. It has a 4 hole stinger, but no stampings on it. Even though I've had these pipes for a few years, I've yet to do any restoration on them. Eventually....

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tmcg81

Lifer
May 8, 2020
1,037
16,236
NJ
Left to right:

07 Silhouette
07 Flame Grain
93b Super Grain
40 "600"

Not sure about the last one. I thought it said "God" instead of "600" for the longest time.

Except for the flame grain, which I've only smoked a few times and don't really have an opinion either way on it, these pipes are among my best smokers.
 

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telescopes

Pipe Dreamer and Star Gazer
Occasionally I buy a high condition Kaywoodie instead of a Lee.

It’s slightly over clocked, but seems like a nice 3 hole stinger Flame Grain 12B for only $25 delivered.

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I haven’t had the best luck re clocking a Kaywoodie. Lees are easy.

Any ideas, or just smoke it as it is?
Heat the stinger with a lighter. Then, using pliers, reclock it. Easy peasy.
 
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Briar Lee

Lifer
Sep 4, 2021
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Heat the stinger with a lighter. Then, using pliers, reclock it. Easy peasy.
I’ve not tried heating with a lighter.

Thanks for the tip.

I’ve tried boiling hot water, which oxidizes the stem.

A Lee joining method could be argued to be a copy of a Kaywoodie, but a Lee has four improvements.

1. Lees had a recessed mortise that cannot be distinguished from a push stem.

2. A Lee mortise is threaded and later, also glued. It stays put.

3. The Lee stinger is a separate, removable part.


4. Both a Lee and a Kaywoodie had to have shank and stem aligned in order to finish the pipe, especially on a square shanked bulldog. Kaywoodie then re clocked new pipes with the stem and bit turned slightly to the left, to allow them to wear in. Lee did exactly the same thing. But Kaywoodie must have glued their tenons, where Lee left them without glue.

To re clock a Kaywoodie, I’ve found heat, cussing, and hopes and prayers are required. I’ve ruined several in the attempt.


Re clocking a Lee only requires pliers. I’ve had 100% success at it.