McClelland: A Philosophical Question
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Yes, you could convert those 20 tins of FM into 100 tins of outstanding tobacco.
Exactly. I’d take 100 tins of Fayyum over 20 tins of FM any day, haha. Matter of fact I’d take 20 tins of Fayyum over 100 of FM
Yes but now that I think about it, that's a disincentive for this guy to crack a tin. Every time he does, he's out $85. If he wanted to, he could take all 20 tins and raise $1700 in a jiffy. Considering how average Frog Morton actually is, does he really want to waste that money just to smoke it?
There’s nothing average about the tin art.
Rip off the label, rub it out and load your pipe. Let me know how that smokes.
Exactly. I’d take 100 tins of Fayyum over 20 tins of FM any day, haha. Matter of fact I’d take 20 tins of Fayyum over 100 of FM
You don't got to even think as exotic as Fayyum, just think about GLP. 90% of his catalog is worth squishing that frog over. One night of beer and pizza and Pease could fart out an English blend that would probably be better
You don't got to even think as exotic as Fayyum, just think about GLP. 90% of his catalog is worth squishing that frog over. One night of beer and pizza and Pease could fart out an English blend that would probably be better
Why do you feel the need to be so subtle. Just spit out how you really feel.
In English crossover comparisons, I've always favored Mac Baren's Plum Cake and The Solent Mixture to Frog Morton.
I've often wondered why Plum Cake doesn't come up more often as an alternative to FMC. Or Pembroke for that matter, which is pretty easy to find in half-pound bags at some B&Ms.
I've been lucky enough to try most of the Frogs and I don't really miss them as long as I have access to Pembroke or ASTB. Watch City Old Black Magic seems similar to OTT. The only Frog that I really lament the passing of is ATP. But I hear it was difficult to find well before the closing. For the cellar, I'll take SG Bothy Flake over the Frogs any day?.
Frog bashing aside, there is some interesting conversation here.
I'm someone who gravitates toward sweet latakia blends and have always really liked all of the Frogs. I have a bunch of tins and never hesitate to crack one open when the mood strikes. My McClelland VA and VA/Per stash, however, has been sitting untouched for years. I've never tried any of them. This is mostly because I generally do not like straight VA and have drifted away from VaPers despite putting significant effort into trying to like them. For now, sweet and smoky blends are my thing and I have no desire to fight that. I hope that someday my palate will come around to truly appreciate VAs and VaPers and I look forward to digging into my McClellands as soon as a I detect even a subtle sign that I might enjoy them. If that time ever comes I'll probably buy a pipe to dedicate to this chapter of my pipe smoking journey because all of my pipes have now seen several years worth of latakia smoking.
Here's what I have to work with. The Frogs, Balkan Blue, and Balkan Beauty are all a part of my current rotation. The ones patiently awaiting their turn include:
#24 Matured Virginia (3)
#27 Matured Virginia (1)
40th Anniversary (2)
Beacon Extra (2)
Blackwoods Flake (3)
Boston 1776 (1)
Christmas Cheer (2)
Mike and Russ Mind Meld Va/Per (1)
Dark Star (1)
Navy Cavendish (2)
Tudor Castle (1)
I'm someone who gravitates toward sweet latakia blends and have always really liked all of the Frogs. I have a bunch of tins and never hesitate to crack one open when the mood strikes. My McClelland VA and VA/Per stash, however, has been sitting untouched for years. I've never tried any of them. This is mostly because I generally do not like straight VA and have drifted away from VaPers despite putting significant effort into trying to like them. For now, sweet and smoky blends are my thing and I have no desire to fight that. I hope that someday my palate will come around to truly appreciate VAs and VaPers and I look forward to digging into my McClellands as soon as a I detect even a subtle sign that I might enjoy them. If that time ever comes I'll probably buy a pipe to dedicate to this chapter of my pipe smoking journey because all of my pipes have now seen several years worth of latakia smoking.
Here's what I have to work with. The Frogs, Balkan Blue, and Balkan Beauty are all a part of my current rotation. The ones patiently awaiting their turn include:
#24 Matured Virginia (3)
#27 Matured Virginia (1)
40th Anniversary (2)
Beacon Extra (2)
Blackwoods Flake (3)
Boston 1776 (1)
Christmas Cheer (2)
Mike and Russ Mind Meld Va/Per (1)
Dark Star (1)
Navy Cavendish (2)
Tudor Castle (1)
The only other time I’ve seen an army like that is when @chasingembers let’s his out on furlough ...?
I think a lot of people will disbelieve lot of unsmoked enjoyed tobacco the way we hoard it. Smoke it.
Thanks for the suggestion, Jesse. Frog Morton on the Bayou made for a great summer smoke, and I’m sure Frog on the Log will as well. I shall pop a tin soon.
I was just joking around with Frank. I was pretending to play into the McClelland hype where people were scrambling to find a Frog Morton replacement (and still are). With that being said, I do like McClelland blends and Frog Morton was one of the first blends I learned of. So McClelland and Frog Morton brings back good memories, even though I haven’t tried the original yet. When I first got into piping McClelland had just closed down, but I was able to find a good amount of various tins and bulk.
Truth. There are at least a few McClelland sleepers. I think people focus so much on Frog Morton, FMC, Anniversary and 5100 that some start believing those are the only worthwhile blends they produced.