If There Were No Nicotine in Pipe Tobacco...

[renfield]

If the blend tasted the same there’s no doubt I’d continue to smoke it sans-nicotine.

When I was very heavily into home brewing beer one of my laments was
that many of the bigger styles I enjoyed brewing were also high alc. I drink for flavor, not to get buzzed. Everyone’s an adult and makes their own decisions.

 

[Chasing Embers]

I don’t get why you keep dragging me back.

Because

 

[frozenchurchwarden]

Because

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At any other juncture in history this conversation never would have happened.
At face value the concept of Tobacco without Nicotine is ridiculous, but it is also necessary.

Yes, denial, people who think they're not going to be affected by the coming changes is in denial.
Even possession of Tobacco can be outlawed, right now anyone in Canada who possesses more than 1Kg of tobacco can be jailed six months for it.
Just because extreme restrictions don't apply to you now doesn't mean they won't in the future.

You say the death of the industry doesn't bother you because you have your supply, but that's not how it works. Anything can be taken away if enough people are against it.

 

[JOHN72]

If the blend tasted the same there’s no doubt I’d continue to smoke it sans-nicotine.

When I was very heavily into home brewing beer one of my laments was
that many of the bigger styles I enjoyed brewing were also high alc. I drink for flavor, not to get buzzed. Everyone’s an adult and makes their own decisions.

I love nicotine and alcohol drinks................I don't like getting drunk. I like to enjoy the moment...............The last time I got drunk was 17 years. Celebrating my finish training course, in the army.....

 

[sablebrush52]

At any other juncture in history this conversation never would have happened.
At face value the concept of Tobacco without Nicotine is ridiculous, but it is also necessary.

Yes, denial, people who think they're not going to be affected by the coming changes is in denial.
Even possession of Tobacco can be outlawed, right now anyone in Canada who possesses more than 1Kg of tobacco can be jailed six months for it.
Just because extreme restrictions don't apply to you now doesn't mean they won't in the future.

You say the death of the industry doesn't bother you because you have your supply, but that's not how it works. Anything can be taken away if enough people are against it.

Can you point me to the statute limiting ownership of tobacco to 1kg? I’ve been unable to find any mention of it.

 

[anotherbob]

Can you point me to the statute limiting ownership of tobacco to 1kg? I’ve been unable to find any mention of it.

in imagination land anything can happen.

 

[JOHN72]

At any other juncture in history this conversation never would have happened.
At face value the concept of Tobacco without Nicotine is ridiculous, but it is also necessary.

Yes, denial, people who think they're not going to be affected by the coming changes is in denial.
Even possession of Tobacco can be outlawed, right now anyone in Canada who possesses more than 1Kg of tobacco can be jailed six months for it.
Just because extreme restrictions don't apply to you now doesn't mean they won't in the future.

You say the death of the industry doesn't bother you because you have your supply, but that's not how it works. Anything can be taken away if enough people are against it.

I belive that the future is on this path. The neighbor will denounce to you when he smell like smoke..........It will be a real circus....

 

[Sweet Home Alabama]

When tobacco is outlawed only outlaws will have tobacco or was it guns...!!! LOL!

It is odd that tactics to limit humans have always failed, but it continues to be tried. No, I do not want to smell your second hand smoke, but what you do is your business.

I choose to smoke outside and I am single and own my home. I do not want the inside of the house to smell like smoke. The pipes themselves can stink.

A friend said part of the reason humans smoke is the affinity of making and maintaining a fire. Smoking, cooking, camp fires and wood stoves can be such a delight. So, it's not, for me, just nicotine or a lack thereof.

Escessive smoke from a wood stove comes from wood not properly dried. Here is a wonderful resource for those who burn wood. A non-commercial service in support of responsible home heating with wood - woodheat.org home . Yet, some are against smoke in any form.

 

[Fiddlepiper]

I love nicotine and alcohol drinks................I don't like getting drunk. I like to enjoy the moment...............The last time I got drunk was 17 years. Celebrating my finish training course, in the army.....

I have always been drawn to substances that alter ones state - Nicotine, Valium, Vicodin, marijuana, ecstasy and alcohol. Cocaine.

Wait this might be the wrong thread for this post...,

 

[anotherbob]

When tobacco is outlawed only outlaws will have tobacco or was it guns...!!! LOL!

It is odd that tactics to limit humans have always failed, but it continues to be tried. No, I do not want to smell your second hand smoke, but what you do is your business.

I choose to smoke outside and I am single and own my home. I do not want the inside of the house to smell like smoke. The pipes themselves can stink.

A friend said part of the reason humans smoke is the affinity of making and maintaining a fire. Smoking, cooking, camp fires and wood stoves can be such a delight. So, it's not, for me, just nicotine or a lack thereof.

Escessive smoke from a wood stove comes from wood not properly dried. Here is a wonderful resource for those who burn wood. A non-commercial service in support of responsible home heating with wood - woodheat.org home . Yet, some are against smoke in any form.

That not guns or tobacco it's clones. If you outlaw clones only out laws will have clones. (stole that from Sifl and Olly and plan on making a teeshirt out of it. It will have that text at the top and then a cartoon burglar with the stripped shirt and burglar mask slash goodie bag.
I don't think smoking is going to be banned any time soon. Certainly limited. But it's too much part of the culture. That seems to be the measure not how scary or disliked a thing is but how unknown. The biggest warning sign if something is going to be banned is seriously it being strongly associated with another culture (seriously if you look at the history of banned substances that's nearly always the first step). If tobacco does get banned one thing you can almost be sure of is we won't miss a beat and tobacco clinics will show up right away. Why because it's got medicinal uses thankfully for us mainly psychological (people call it relaxing).
Though there was one time tobacco was banned really severely too coffee too almost. Mention that too people and they'll always be shocked. See the thing is to get something banned it seems it has to dramatically change behavior or be the ruling of a monarch. Notice the laws about smoking are all about doing it around other people not doing it to yourself. Now if people start running other people over because they're fiddling with pipes and cigarettes then maybe we should worry.

 

[anotherbob]

I have always been drawn to substances that alter ones state - Nicotine, Valium, Vicodin, marijuana, ecstasy and alcohol. Cocaine.

Wait this might be the wrong thread for this post...,

wait you're a human aren't you? Sounds like you're a human from that post.

 

[frozenchurchwarden]

Can you point me to the statute limiting ownership of tobacco to 1kg? I’ve been unable to find any mention of it.

Sorry I got that a bit mixed up, the provinces also have their own regulations so more specifically it is an Alberta law (section 4.1): https://www.qp.alberta.ca/documents/Acts/T04.pdf

 

[captainsousie]

Admittedly I haven't read all 8 pages of this thread yet. However, reading the last couple pages, I was forced to call my uncle and found out that in fact hell had frozen over. The cause was that the thread seems to have stayed on topic...

Incidentally, I find it funny that a mod changed the title, admonished the poster regarding rule 9 and then did not capitalize the second word. Sounds like something I would do (take that for what it's worth).

 

[captainsousie]

Oh yeah, almost forgot to get back on topic.

I would enjoy it the same as the nicotine has never been a deterrent or a perk.

 

[newbroom]

The impact of nicotine is why I ever began. (I am an addict)
It took me about 6 weeks to discover that you don't inhale, and that there is tasty tobacco that satisfies your addiction w/o inhaling with a little practice. Whoopie!

 

[PaulTheScandinavian]

In all honesty if pipetobacco did not contain nicotine I'd call it quits,,

 

[jpmcwjr]

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Incidentally, I find it funny that a mod changed the title, admonished the poster regarding rule 9 and then did not capitalize the second word. Sounds like something I would do (take that for what it's worth).

Pointing one to rule 9 is hardly an admonishment! It's s.o.p.. Apologies if he felt singled out.

The second word, being not important, was left uncapitalized on purpose. A perhaps poor editorial judgement!
FWIW: I agonized over that- should "were" be lower cased instead? Should they both be lowercased? None?

 

[captainsousie]

Pointing one to rule 9 is hardly an admonishment! It's s.o.p.. Apologies if he felt singled out.

The second word, being not important, was left uncapitalized on purpose. A perhaps poor editorial judgement!
FWIW: I agonized over that- should "were" be lower cased instead? Should they both be lowercased? None?

Sorry, it came across more cranky than intended. Hence the statement "something I would do". I was just amused, nothing more. Speaking of something I would do, I believe admonish was too strong of a word for the situation.

 

[jpmcwjr]

No problem. Thanks for the post.

 

[fightnhampster]

Late to the party

Based on my smoking habits I would say it it PRIMARILY for flavor. I avoid blends that don't taste right to me but have high nicotine.

I would say nicotine is clearly a factor, especially in frequency. Maybe 65% flavor, 35% nicotine?

The same question can it be applied to coffee or tea. I do drink those things for the caffeine as well as flavor.

I believe this in large part because I avoid crappy forms of it and do drink decaf coffee and decaf tea frequently, especially in the evenings.