If There Were No Nicotine in Pipe Tobacco...

[OneGoodBulldog]

Makes me wonder what percentage of tobacco sales go to the cigarette market. If it's high enough, ceasing cigarette production may be disastrous enough to put producers out of business leaving all tobacco users out in the cold.

Tobacco companies aren't going anywhere. They're going to take over the vape market, they're already doing it. Vaping is the future of smoking. The fluid is cheap and easy to make and you can pass the costs of coils and pens right to the consumer. In fact, it's even more lucrative because the pens are not cheap and they don't last forever. I'm sure soon we'll see luxury vaping products too. You can already get the things custom made! Just imagine what that will look like with big tobacco money!

Sounds awful I know, but I really don't think this will crater tobacco production. There is simply too much demand for cigars, and I'm sure the whole world isn't going to ban cigarettes. If tobacco companies are smart, and they are, they'll see the opportunity to expand their other markets. I'm sure some research will finally go into alternative tobacco products too.

Besides, if cigarettes were banned tomorrow how would it affect pipe tobacco sales? Probably see a boost as all the members of pipesmag go on a hoarding spree!

 

[warren]

The banning of cigarettes would no doubt spark a growth in pipe smoking.. How much growth? Enough to keep farmers growing? Probably not.

 

[OneGoodBulldog]

I'll also submit that anyone who claims to not be addicted to nicotine while smoking a pipe doesn't know how addiction works. Taste, habit, nostalgia, whatever reason you give - you're describing nicotine addiction!

The mind is a funny thing and has a neat way of lying to you to get what it wants. Most people will never know they're fibbing themselves, that's how suave a liar your brain can be.

If you don't believe me, then quit smoking your pipe for a month. I'm not going to try because I know I can't. I'd say I don't want to, and I don't, but all that is saying is hey, my brain tells me I like smoking for X reason so it can continue to get nicotine.

This isn't a condemnation, just facts. I'm sure a lot of people will say I'm wrong and they're not making up reasons for why they smoke. All I can say is that those people really believe themselves (and that's okay).

 

[Chasing Embers]

Probably see a boost as all the members of pipesmag go on a hoarding spree!

Until the tobacco ran out. At my current rate if I live to see 70 I'll never have to buy more.

 

[JOHN72]

I'll also submit that anyone who claims to not be addicted to nicotine while smoking a pipe doesn't know how addiction works. Taste, habit, nostalgia, whatever reason you give - you're describing nicotine addiction!

The mind is a funny thing and has a neat way of lying to you to get what it wants. Most people will never know they're fibbing themselves, that's how suave a liar your brain can be.

If you don't believe me, then quit smoking your pipe for a month. I'm not going to try because I know I can't. I'd say I don't want to, and I don't, but all that is saying is hey, my brain tells me I like smoking for X reason so it can continue to get nicotine.

This isn't a condemnation, just facts. I'm sure a lot of people will say I'm wrong and they're not making up reasons for why they smoke. All I can say is that those people really believe themselves (and that's okay).

We're addicted to the traditional, to the genuine...............?

 

[Casual]

I'll also submit that anyone who claims to not be addicted to nicotine while smoking a pipe doesn't know how addiction works. Taste, habit, nostalgia, whatever reason you give - you're describing nicotine addiction!

The mind is a funny thing and has a neat way of lying to you to get what it wants. Most people will never know they're fibbing themselves, that's how suave a liar your brain can be.

If you don't believe me, then quit smoking your pipe for a month. I'm not going to try because I know I can't. I'd say I don't want to, and I don't, but all that is saying is hey, my brain tells me I like smoking for X reason so it can continue to get nicotine.

This isn't a condemnation, just facts. I'm sure a lot of people will say I'm wrong and they're not making up reasons for why they smoke. All I can say is that those people really believe themselves (and that's okay).

You're wrong to generalize to everyone. You say “just facts” and then pretend to read other people’s minds. No mind reader deals in facts.

I smoked cigarettes in my twenties and know the addiction. Quit cold turkey for decades, no regrets, no thought about it. Took up an occasional pipe for fun, and do put it down for weeks at a time when it gets too cold.

These ideas sound like someone who’s starting their alcohol recovery and assuming everyone who drinks is an alcoholic.

There is always a risk of addiction, just like with alcohol, gambling, or anything else. Some people can manage it, some can’t.

 

[carver]

I think I would, I don’t usually like the blends that have a too high nic hit anyway. Like some others already said it, I smoke for the ritual, the peaceful moment (maybe it has something to do with the nicotine though, although many studies studies show that the “aaaah” relaxing effect of smoking is actually the feeling of “getting a much wanted fix” rather than being an effect of the nicotine.

what I personally find really relaxing is simply connected to the fact that in order to smoke a pipe one has to considerably calm the breathing and through very slow puffing can one only really enjoy one’s pipe.

I’d smoke even without nicotine in the tobacco... me thinks.

 

[Chasing Embers]

in order to smoke a pipe one has to considerably calm the breathing and through very slow puffing can one only really enjoy one’s pipe.

That's also generalizing. Some do some don't.

 

[carver]

That's also generalizing. Some do some don't.

Ah..?
I’ve always believed it was PipeSmoking 101 n°1 advice: slooooooow smoking.

 

[carver]

That's also generalizing. Some do some don't.

In any case, fair enough, I do find personally that it’s the slow breathing that actually calms me down considerably when smoking.

 

[Chasing Embers]

Ah..?
I’ve always believed it was PipeSmoking 101 n°1 advice: slooooooow smoking.

PipeSmoking 101 Rule 1 : Enjoy Pipe Smoking

I don't produce much visible smoke, some do and we all enjoy it.

 

[Chasing Embers]

calms me down

That's can also be an effect of nicotine.

 

[OneGoodBulldog]

You're wrong to generalize to everyone. You say “just facts” and then pretend to read other people’s minds. No mind reader deals in facts.

I smoked cigarettes in my twenties and know the addiction. Quit cold turkey for decades, no regrets, no thought about it. Took up an occasional pipe for fun, and do put it down for weeks at a time when it gets too cold.

These ideas sound like someone who’s starting their alcohol recovery and assuming everyone who drinks is an alcoholic.

There is always a risk of addiction, just like with alcohol, gambling, or anything else. Some people can manage it, some can’t.

So you smoke a pipe for fun? This is exactly what I was talking about. If you didn't have a nicotine addiction, you wouldn't smoke. So you can manage it, that's fine. Doesn't change anything.

 

[Chasing Embers]

So you smoke a pipe for fun?

Fun is an addiction as well or no one would seek it out.

 

[OneGoodBulldog]

Fun is an addiction as well or no one would seek it out.

I think humans just love dopamine.

 

[anantaandroscoggin]

And some others are adrenaline junkies, doing things like jumping out of perfectly good and fully functional airplanes for fun.

 

[Fiddlepiper]

I think humans just love dopamine.

Best drug there is surely?

 

[Chasing Embers]

Best drug there is surely?

Melatonin

 

[Fiddlepiper]

Melatonin

Depends whether you’re chasing an up or down I suppose?

 

[Chasing Embers]

Depends whether you’re chasing an up or down I suppose?

Chasing a sleep.