Why Did D&R Stop Selling Picayune?

[Jeremiah Johnson]

Why did Daughters & Ryan stop making and selling Picayune, instead of stopping something like Three Sails, which people joke about? Or one of their other many blends? Surely Picayune stood out as being a blend with one of the highest amounts of nicotine; it must have sold more than many of their other blends. If it cost more to produce for some reason, why not just increase the price rather than end it? Anyone have any theories or actual knowledge of this? I smoking a bowl of my remaining few ounces right now. I'll miss it when it's gone, and smoke it sparingly now (Happy Friday!).

 

[BROBS]

Why did Daughters & Ryan stop making and selling Picayune, instead of stopping something like Three Sails, which people joke about? Or one of their other many blends? Surely Picayune stood out as being a blend with one of the highest amounts of nicotine; it must have sold more than many of their other blends. If it cost more to produce for some reason, why not just increase the price rather than end it? Anyone have any theories or actual knowledge of this? I smoking a bowl of my remaining few ounces right now. I'll miss it when it's gone, and smoke it sparingly now (Happy Friday!).

I’d say it sold the least out of all their blends.

 

[logs]

The topic of being discontinued has been widely discussed in this forum. Just search on Picayune.

 

[musicman]

Short answer: The company was sold and the new owners decided to discontinue some of the more poorly selling blends.

 

[cosmicfolklore]

The company that bought D&R is strictly an RYO company. They don’t seem to know dick about what pipe smokers would like. I’ve defended D&R for years on the forum, because of Mark’s involvement. And, people’s confusion about RYO and pipe tobacco. But, after some brick wall emails, they can hang.
I’ve got a small six pound stash of Picayune. I will break them out occasionally and enjoy memories of the good ol’ days.

 

[rushx9]

Too many fatalities ?

 

[troyniss]

Never had any of the D&R blends but I have a tub of the SJ Rimboche 3.5oz. I heard Picayuane was really popular among pipe smokers. Cheap, good flavor and strong. However, I can't say too much about it.

 

[Chasing Embers]

instead of stopping something like Three Sails, which people joke about?

Never heard anything but praise for that one.

 

[craig61a]

The majority of the company's stake was bought out by Inter-Continental Trading USA last Fall. There may have been a competing product that ICT already owned, or the margin on that product didn't justify the effort to keep it around.

The trend of dwindling investors in tobacco in general, push by UN to de-incentivize investing in tobacco, onerous regulations, streamlining the business to maximize profit... all those big business sort of things.

And 99.99% of businesses don't share their marketing and product strategies with the general public, so take the Monday morning quarterbacking with a grain of salt...

 

[canucklehead]

3 Sails is one of their bestsellers, everyone likes it. Picayune was one of the worst sellers and only like 7 people smoked it, and they're all here on the PM forum.

 

[craig61a]

Perhaps the definition itself...

 

[cosmicfolklore]

Well, the majority of pipesmokers prefer aromatics, which doesn’t give you spit for nicotine. And, with the majority of the minuscule amount of pipesmokers that prefer non-aros, usually smoking for flavor prefer those limp wristed fancy pinky finger out Virginias. That probably does leaves about seven of us... that appreciate a full tobacco heavy puncher like Picayune.

Give C&Ds Burley Flake #1 a lot of love. We don’t want that one going away also.

 

[kcghost]

Simple story. D&R sold out and the new owner decided not to sell Picayune.

 

[cosmicfolklore]

You know... of SG decided not to make FVF anymore, there’d be a lot more empathy for those that would have emotions about loosing it.

I try my best to have empathy for those whom live in states that have made aros illegal, even though I would never smoke a tooty fruity myself.

 

[fireground_piper]

Simple story. D&R sold out and the new owner decided not to sell Picayune.

The alternative being, simply closing the doors and retiring.

 

[coming to_falling too]

I've probably around 2oz of Picayune left. I wish i would have bought more. When i first smoked it i didn't know what to think of it.

 

[Jeremiah Johnson]

The company that bought D&R is strictly an RYO company. They don’t seem to know dick about what pipe smokers would like. I’ve defended D&R for years on the forum, because of Mark’s involvement. And, people’s confusion about RYO and pipe tobacco. But, after some brick wall emails, they can hang.
I’ve got a small six pound stash of Picayune. I will break them out occasionally and enjoy memories of the good ol’ days.

Lucky bastid! If they’re strictly RYO, then that’s the best answer I’ve heard yet.

 

[Jeremiah Johnson]

Perhaps the definition itself...

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Interesting. I always had a positive association with the term because of the New Orleans newspaper.

 

[Jeremiah Johnson]

Simple story. D&R sold out and the new owner decided not to sell Picayune.

The fact is an explanation for itself? Hmm...

 

[Jeremiah Johnson]

Never heard anything but praise for that one.

The reviews I read seemed pretty negative. But I guess the reviews for Picayune are mixed.