No fears. Haddo’s is grandfathered in.
When Will the Ax Fall?
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It is just the lowlife do-gooders who can't stand it if a group is happy with something that they enjoy.
The most obvious example I can point to is the line of Cult blends. Pipes & Cigars had a sale on some of them awhile back saying they were being discontinued due to federal regulations. I just checked their website and they now just carry Blood Red Moon and Conspiracy. I guess those two made enough money and were worth jumping through FDA hoops to get approved.
Throughout history people have tended to find a way to get something, if they Really want it. This despite ‘laws’ fabricated by kings or politicians. Human ingenuity should never be completely discounted.
@fightnhampster Orlik Golden Mixture is another one getting 86ed. LIkewise Drexel VIII and some blend by Cohiba. Last P&C catalog I received mentioned those three specifically. Love those catalogues! They have revolutionized my morning dumps, yet left my TAD unaffected. Who'd have thought? 
@5star Well said!
@5star Well said!
Is Key Largo getting killed by this??
Deeming regulations killed Burley and Black for me, and forced Butternut Burley into a BYO. But so far everything else I like has been safe.
In my relatively short piping life (oh, about 1991); I’ve seen plenty of blends go the way side. Kentucky Club, Very Cherry, Walnut, McClelland, Dunhill, Erindale, etc.
also saw the closing of two great blending houses in Murray’s and Gallaher’s.
Some great shops have gone away as well, Kramer’s, Tinder Box, Tewksbury.
Fortunately I learned the lesson to either buy in bulk what I like, or find a new blend. I loaded up on Murray’s version of 965, have a bunch of Christmas Cheer and Frog Morton Across the Pond, would like more of the Gallaher’s blended Peterson Sherlock Holmes, and wish I could score another tub or two of both Kentucky Club And Walnut.
Buy what you like, and like what you buy.
Don’t put off til tomorrow, what might be gone today.
also saw the closing of two great blending houses in Murray’s and Gallaher’s.
Some great shops have gone away as well, Kramer’s, Tinder Box, Tewksbury.
Fortunately I learned the lesson to either buy in bulk what I like, or find a new blend. I loaded up on Murray’s version of 965, have a bunch of Christmas Cheer and Frog Morton Across the Pond, would like more of the Gallaher’s blended Peterson Sherlock Holmes, and wish I could score another tub or two of both Kentucky Club And Walnut.
Buy what you like, and like what you buy.
Don’t put off til tomorrow, what might be gone today.
Can someone give me a quick summary of what all this FDA stuff is about? I haven't paid any attention to tobacco legislation in the last 10 years or so.
We all enjoy pipe smoking. The Borg operating the FDA hate it, and continually work in tandem with their Borg counterparts operating other government entities to attack it in every way possible e.g. excessive regulation, taxation, etc. This will only get worse (read: more oppressive), so the idea is that, since pipe tobacco will never be cheaper or more readily available than it is at this very moment, it's best to stock up on blends you like while you still can. @sablebrush52 refers to the above scenario as "death by a thousand cuts." I'd have to wholeheartedly agree.
I wish I could say I was exaggerating, but I am not. Not even about the Borg stuff. Watch the film They Live for more info on that. Best documentary around.
Hope this helps!
It does, and I'm on the same page with you (I despise the arrogant managerial cult that seeks to regulate every aspect of life in western societies), but what I'm looking for is a TLDR about this recent legislation. I keep seeing people referring to blends dying out, "getting grandfathered in," etc, with reference to some recent FDA machinations - what happened, exactly?
It's more a social issue than political. We smokers are simply on the wrong side of the issue. Our ox is being gored so we pick the easy target, politicians and government which are simply the extension of ourselves, in those countries which allow elections. So, blame your neighbors for electing politicians who opt to support the voters (society). It really is that simple! Of course the politicians muck it up, entangle the issue with other issues and so forth, find and easy, well supported issue and crowd a bunch of other stuff on whatever bill is available. But, do not forget who put them in the forum with instructions to eliminate tobacco use. Smokers do not have a lobby. Tobacco companies, for the most part, have spread out into other areas for survival and no longer lobby for subsidies and support.
So, we either submit to the tide or, if someone has the resources, develop a lobbying effort. If course that effort will, be necessity, have to find someway to fight the science. And, many moneys will have to found. As far as I know there is nothing healthy about smoking bu it pipe, cigar, or, cigarette.
But, for those of you with the finances, like water in SoCal, tobacco will always be available. Again, like so many of our vices, it's pay to play.
Question: What is/are "The Borg?"
So, we either submit to the tide or, if someone has the resources, develop a lobbying effort. If course that effort will, be necessity, have to find someway to fight the science. And, many moneys will have to found. As far as I know there is nothing healthy about smoking bu it pipe, cigar, or, cigarette.
But, for those of you with the finances, like water in SoCal, tobacco will always be available. Again, like so many of our vices, it's pay to play.
Question: What is/are "The Borg?"
Lane Ready Rubbed (copy of Edgeworth)
Lane Ready Rubbed Discontinued? :: Pipe Tobacco Discussion
Pipes & Cigars, which is owned by STG which owns Lane Ltd, no longer sells Lane Ready Rubbed (says, 'No Longer Available for Purchase'). I'd noticed they no longer sold it in in bulk awhile ago. Lane Limited Ready Rubbed (Edgeworth) - Pipes and Cigars Has Lane Ready Rubbed been discontinued...
pipesmagazine.com
There does seem to be a continuing theme...Well, that was certainly emphatic!
Been there, done that.
At this point, no one knows what is happening. Blends getting discontinued are mor ethe victims of mediocre sales than anything else. The blenders that make them deem them not profitable enough to pay for an SE Deeming.
That's what I get for trying to use my phone! If it were scaled up to match my thumbs, it wouldn't fit on my belt...Well, that was certainly emphatic!
Been there, done that.
Just checked P & C website out of curiosity. Cult Conspiracy no longer available. They now carry only Blood Red Moon.
