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sablebrush52

The Bard Of Barlings
Jun 15, 2013
20,383
47,669
Southern Oregon
jrs457.wixsite.com
I would like to stock up on the option to make sure Greg Pease can keep getting me fresh Haddo's. It's still good aged, but I like it fresh. Don't really care what kind of voodoo ritual it takes.

Not sure what the going rate on that is? I guess I have a kidney I can part with.
No fears. Haddo’s is grandfathered in.
 

homesteader

Starting to Get Obsessed
Jun 7, 2019
209
545
Has anyone seen any blends leave the shelves in the past few weeks? I'm curious if any blends were left to die.
The most obvious example I can point to is the line of Cult blends. Pipes & Cigars had a sale on some of them awhile back saying they were being discontinued due to federal regulations. I just checked their website and they now just carry Blood Red Moon and Conspiracy. I guess those two made enough money and were worth jumping through FDA hoops to get approved.
 

Bax Burley

Can't Leave
Jul 20, 2021
307
3,238
Pennsylvania
For the first third of my life, I breathed everyone's cigarette smoke on cross country busses, trains, and in bars, and student unions. Apparently in the last part of my life, I'm going to spend my tax dollars intercepting and incarcerating people for sales of Kay Largo pipe tobacco. Crazy at both ends of this journey. To reach for an understatement, Einstein is not representative of the species, and he smoked a pipe.
Is Key Largo getting killed by this??

Deeming regulations killed Burley and Black for me, and forced Butternut Burley into a BYO. But so far everything else I like has been safe.
 
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Aomalley27

Part of the Furniture Now
Mar 8, 2021
763
1,701
Chicagoland area
In my relatively short piping life (oh, about 1991); I’ve seen plenty of blends go the way side. Kentucky Club, Very Cherry, Walnut, McClelland, Dunhill, Erindale, etc.
also saw the closing of two great blending houses in Murray’s and Gallaher’s.
Some great shops have gone away as well, Kramer’s, Tinder Box, Tewksbury.

Fortunately I learned the lesson to either buy in bulk what I like, or find a new blend. I loaded up on Murray’s version of 965, have a bunch of Christmas Cheer and Frog Morton Across the Pond, would like more of the Gallaher’s blended Peterson Sherlock Holmes, and wish I could score another tub or two of both Kentucky Club And Walnut.

Buy what you like, and like what you buy.
Don’t put off til tomorrow, what might be gone today.
 

Servant King

Lifer
Nov 27, 2020
4,601
26,253
39
Frazier Park, CA
www.thechembow.com
Can someone give me a quick summary of what all this FDA stuff is about? I haven't paid any attention to tobacco legislation in the last 10 years or so.
We all enjoy pipe smoking. The Borg operating the FDA hate it, and continually work in tandem with their Borg counterparts operating other government entities to attack it in every way possible e.g. excessive regulation, taxation, etc. This will only get worse (read: more oppressive), so the idea is that, since pipe tobacco will never be cheaper or more readily available than it is at this very moment, it's best to stock up on blends you like while you still can. @sablebrush52 refers to the above scenario as "death by a thousand cuts." I'd have to wholeheartedly agree.

I wish I could say I was exaggerating, but I am not. Not even about the Borg stuff. Watch the film They Live for more info on that. Best documentary around.

Hope this helps!
 

half-light

Lurker
Jan 27, 2022
14
35
We all enjoy pipe smoking. The Borg operating the FDA hate it, and continually work in tandem with their Borg counterparts operating other government entities to attack it in every way possible e.g. excessive regulation, taxation, etc. This will only get worse (read: more oppressive), so the idea is that, since pipe tobacco will never be cheaper or more readily available than it is at this very moment, it's best to stock up on blends you like while you still can. @sablebrush52 refers to the above scenario as "death by a thousand cuts." I'd have to wholeheartedly agree.

I wish I could say I was exaggerating, but I am not. Not even about the Borg stuff. Watch the film They Live for more info on that. Best documentary around.

Hope this helps!
It does, and I'm on the same page with you (I despise the arrogant managerial cult that seeks to regulate every aspect of life in western societies), but what I'm looking for is a TLDR about this recent legislation. I keep seeing people referring to blends dying out, "getting grandfathered in," etc, with reference to some recent FDA machinations - what happened, exactly?
 

warren

Lifer
Sep 13, 2013
12,227
18,027
Foothills of the Chugach Range, AK
It's more a social issue than political. We smokers are simply on the wrong side of the issue. Our ox is being gored so we pick the easy target, politicians and government which are simply the extension of ourselves, in those countries which allow elections. So, blame your neighbors for electing politicians who opt to support the voters (society). It really is that simple! Of course the politicians muck it up, entangle the issue with other issues and so forth, find and easy, well supported issue and crowd a bunch of other stuff on whatever bill is available. But, do not forget who put them in the forum with instructions to eliminate tobacco use. Smokers do not have a lobby. Tobacco companies, for the most part, have spread out into other areas for survival and no longer lobby for subsidies and support.

So, we either submit to the tide or, if someone has the resources, develop a lobbying effort. If course that effort will, be necessity, have to find someway to fight the science. And, many moneys will have to found. As far as I know there is nothing healthy about smoking bu it pipe, cigar, or, cigarette.

But, for those of you with the finances, like water in SoCal, tobacco will always be available. Again, like so many of our vices, it's pay to play.

Question: What is/are "The Borg?"
 

romaso

Lifer
Dec 29, 2010
1,940
7,456
Pacific NW
Has anyone seen any blends leave the shelves in the past few weeks? I'm curious if any blends were left to die.
Lane Ready Rubbed (copy of Edgeworth)
 
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