The Value of Handling Tobacco?

[Richmond B. Funkenhouser]

I would check this thread, wanting to see what is being said about touching tobacco, and then I have to figure out why everyone is talking about death.

Some people are quite obsessed with it.


It's that fear... The hole in the soul that needs to be filled.

 

[woodsroad]

@woodsroad No where in that article did it say that you can become immune to an allergy, but of course allergies and immunity are linked. But, you cannot become immune to something that you have an allergy to in the way that you suggest in your post above.

I have been around all sorts of pigweed varieties, also known as amaranth. But in my 50's have become allergic to it.
also, my newly found metal allergies come from being exposed to nickel for so long.

Unlike immunity to germs and diseases, exposer to allergen do not heal an allergy.

They don't work the same way.

My point is that early childhood exposure to allergens can reduce the risk of sensitivity. I am not claiming that allergies, once they manifest themselves, can be cured by additional exposure.

 

[cosmicfolklore]

My point is that early childhood exposure to allergens can reduce the risk of sensitivity. I am not claiming that allergies, once they manifest themselves, can be cured by additional exposure.

Maybe, but closer to old wives tales. My grandfather told us when were young that if you didn't want to ever be allergic to poison ivy, take small bites of it until desensitized. I never tried it, but my friend did, and his parents were pissed.

You wouldn't think that I wouldn't have an allergy to the most common weed in fields around here after working them all of my life. Now...

Anyways, there's just more to all of it than we think. But, children should be outside. Parents that let kids set on gaming platforms all day long should be shot, IMO. Not because games make kids into serial killers like we were told, but because life should be spent outside, exploring, and doing outside stuff.

 

[Sig]

Personally I'm not sure if that plays a part unless your hands are especially dirty. If you've seen some tobacco processing factories it's essentially all on the floor pressed in cast iron boxes that look to be a hundred years old. Trick I've found over the decades is to not pack tightly or pack at all below the air inlet at the bottom of the bowl. Pack a bit tighter as you go up. The draw in this way remains effortless throughout the smoke.

At about 6am every day my first pipe of the day has a particular flavor.
This is immediately after feeding, mucking and milking our cows.

 

[PLANofMAN]

I wonder what does cause all those allergies?

What's causing the 1000% increase in heart attacks?

Wondering about stuff like that will surely get this strange thread shut down.

A truly massive amount of vaccines administered to an underdeveloped immune system in a very short period of time combined with lots of chemicals in food and said food being stored in plastic much of the time probably doesn't help. 1 in 8 black kids have asthma. 1 in 30 Americans being born have autism. Europe doesn't have that problem, and American didn't have that problem until the 1990's. What are the differences between Europeans and Americans. Analyzing that ought to pinpoint some issues. Let's not forget that time we poisoned the whole earth with lead from leaded gasoline, and we are still dealing with the ramifications of that.

America started having obesity issues around the same time as tallow was swapped out for seed oils and corn syrup replaced sugar in everything. I suspect smart phones have also contributed to the problem by causing people to be more sedentary.

Heart attacks? Yes, it is odd that so many young healthy people are dying like flies. And only in the last five years.... A statistical improbability and a medical mystery. I'll leave it at that. A close friend of mine died in her sleep of a heart attack three days after getting her first COVID vaccine shot. Related, unrelated? Who knows?

 

[proteus]

At about 6am every day my first pipe of the day has a particular flavor.
This is immediately after feeding, mucking and milking our cows.

Is that a Latakia blend by chance?

 

[woodsroad]

We've irradiated the earth, contaminated it's water with chemicals that will never go away, we ingest synthetic materials that we refer to as "food"... and Lord knows what we're breathing. I blame it all on pipe smokers.

 

[Richmond B. Funkenhouser]

We've irradiated the earth, contaminated it's water with chemicals that will never go away, we ingest synthetic materials that we refer to as "food"... and Lord knows what we're breathing. I blame it all on pipe smokers.

Second hand smoke has done this.

 

[Sobrbiker]

Second hand smoke has done this.

I thought it was aerosol anti perspirant and paper bags….

 

[Sigmund]

Americans are fat because they sit on their ass, drive everywhere and supersize everything. It aint a vaccine. Thats the dumbest thing Ive heard today.

Europeans are getting fat because they are starting to do the same.

Hell, in France when you Used to get directions from a local they considered walking distance two plus miles

 

[Grangerous]

@tolstoyevsky

You Sir, are a Rock Star.

 

[telescopes]

This guy?

Ha ha

 

[tolstoyevsky]

I thought it was aerosol anti perspirant and paper bags….

I do my part in saving the planet by refusing to use antiperspirant. If global warming continues, I'm willing to stop using soap.

 

[jpmcwjr]

The average lifespan pre-industrial revolution was 24 years dude. The child mortality rate was 40%. Granted, that wasn't all due to poor hygiene and a lack of antiseptics but those things certainly were a factor.

Good for your family for beating the odds but your exception doesn't prove anything.

An average lifespan that includes a high rate of child mortality doesn't tell us much. Do you have a cite and the years covered? US? England? World?

And omit little quips such as "dude".

 

[jpmcwjr]

My point is that early childhood exposure to allergens can reduce the risk of sensitivity. I am not claiming that allergies, once they manifest themselves, can be cured by additional exposure.

Agree. And allergies can newly manifest at any age... and can diminish, too, but in my experience, not fast at all.

 

[tolstoyevsky]

An average lifespan that includes a high rate of child mortality doesn't tell us much. Do you have a cite and the years covered? US? England? World?

And omit little quips such as "dude".

Reminds me of the guy with one foot in a bucket of ice and the other foot on fire. Says, "On average, I feel fine."

 

[jackattack]

An average lifespan that includes a high rate of child mortality doesn't tell us much. Do you have a cite and the years covered? US? England? World?

And omit little quips such as "dude".

So I'm required to cite sources in this sea of nonsense? Google it yourself if you're that curious.

 

[woodsroad]

So I'm required to cite sources in this sea of nonsense? Google it yourself if you're that curious.

It may be a sea of nonsense, but you jumped in, head first.

 

[jpmcwjr]

So I'm required to cite sources in this sea of nonsense? Google it yourself if you're that curious.

If you are a stand up guy, you'll back up your statements. There are and will be penalties for obstreperous behavior.

 

[sablebrush52]

I don't know what you're all arguing about as I've just returned to look at this thread. But if you're trying to get a handle on lifespans from 1820 to 2020 worldwide, knock yourselves out:

Global life expectancy by region 1820-2020 | Statista

A global phenomenon, known as the demographic transition, has seen life expectancy from birth increase rapidly over the past two centuries.

www.statista.com