The Value of Handling Tobacco?
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People seem to overlook "close to you." A mother feeds her newborn differently than she feeds her customers at a burger joint. I can't, however, speak authoritatively on how they do things in California.
This is all why I do not go to other people's houses to eat. Whether it's morons that think that soap will kill their cast irons (and don't respond to this unless you start a new thread), or people who don't wash dishes well, or don't wash vegetables, or cook without ever washing their hands. After about age 12, we don't want our mama's cooking for us unless she has washed her damned hands, haha.
But, at least i am not as reactive as the guys who would never buy an estate pipe, because someone else's lips have touched the stem, and in their minds nothing will ever get those germs off of the stems, ha ha.
But, at least i am not as reactive as the guys who would never buy an estate pipe, because someone else's lips have touched the stem, and in their minds nothing will ever get those germs off of the stems, ha ha.
Children who grow up with pets have far fewer allergies later on in life. Children who grow up on a farm are bulletproof. Parents that use household chemicals on/around their children like insecticides, herbicides, bactericides and deodorizers are idiots. I once lived next door to a guy who had his house sprayed for insects once a month, and was puzzled as to why his son had cognitive and emotional problems.
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The death rate for children on farms was massive throughout the majority of human history. 150 years ago a case of diarrhea from food borne illness was a death sentence. What is this folksy nonsense that poor hygiene = healthier and stronger?
That actually invites a whole other thread which I may yet start. I like to see the same doctor every time I get sick. Eventually, he'll get to know me, and know which meds or treatments work and which don't. Same deal with my confessor. Wonder how many people here prefer a local tobacconist who has come to learn their tastes as opposed to making all their purchases online.
Mark Twain had a great quote about the essence of this:
"Broad, wholesome, charitable views of men and things cannot be acquired by vegetating in one little corner of the earth all one's lifetime."
I grew up in a very small farm town to barely high school educated parents. I was exposed to little of nothing. My parents were just hammering away at a simple, hard-working life, and my school didn't have the funds to do anything but teach the basics. I could never understand the constant negative talk about general education requirements in latter schooling. "I'm never going to use this." OR, "I've never used that." I genuinely do not understand this perspective. I wasn't the most curious person...until...I was exposed to things I never thought about at all. Exposed to subjects, principles, disciplines, skills, and every type person...I don't know how anyone can claim that stuff didn't change them (and likely for the better). Really? You never use anything from those situations? You can't glean an idea, a different application, or SOMETHING from those things? Your perspective wasn't broadened or changed AT ALL? Many years later, I still don't understand it, and I still hear these things today. Honestly, I think I hear it more these days than I did in the past.
As one who has been treated by an allergist, I don't think any of this has to do with allergies. I actually found out this last year that I am allergic to pigweed, and there are foods that have the chemical found in pigweed that I am allergic to; melons, oranges, etc... It doesn't mean that they will kill me, but it explains why these things make me have to go take a slam right after eating them. But, the pigweed allergy is what was giving me bronchitis. I grew up on a farm, and even my grandparents living with us had bronchitis, probably from the allergies.
I drank from water hoses, never wear/wore shoes at home, etc...\
Probably why it "seems" that so many more people have banana and peanut allergies is because before 30 years ago, the babies just died. Remember crib deaths of the 1960-80's concerns. Unexplained just, baby died... we'll try again.
There was always that one kid at school that always had allergies, blowing snot bubbles 24/7, snot all over his sleaves. This all ain't new. I remember seeing one in my dad's school yearbook, as well as my grandparents. Snotty kids with allergies goes way back.
Sure, I believe that being exposed to germs makes our resistance to germs better.... but I don't see any connection with allergies. That's a whole other realm.
I never said anything about poor hygiene. In the 21st century, kids that grow up on a farm are exposed to a much wider array of flora and fauna, at a younger age, which bolsters their immune systems. Fact.
I thought we were still talking about washing your hands before you prepare food. This thread's derailment has been derailed.
@woodsroad No where in that article did it say that you can become immune to an allergy, but of course allergies and immunity are linked. But, you cannot become immune to something that you have an allergy to in the way that you suggest in your post above.
I have been around all sorts of pigweed varieties, also known as amaranth. But in my 50's have become allergic to it.
also, my newly found metal allergies come from being exposed to nickel for so long.
Unlike immunity to germs and diseases, exposer to allergen do not heal an allergy.
They don't work the same way.
I have been around all sorts of pigweed varieties, also known as amaranth. But in my 50's have become allergic to it.
also, my newly found metal allergies come from being exposed to nickel for so long.
Unlike immunity to germs and diseases, exposer to allergen do not heal an allergy.
They don't work the same way.
Quite a bit of an exaggeration.
Washing you hands is good. I agree, but people lived well before modern times.
Every man in my family history has lived to about 95... And that list goes back waay before running water.
I guess if we want to go back to life expectancy of 40-50 years old, we can continue with the idea that the human body, and our choices, are greater than the natural adversaries out there. We make this political, but it isn't. I see pasteurization is the new political football. How ridiculous. But hey, experts don't know anything, and the people who have thought about something for a grand total of 60 seconds know it all.
To this day, the greatest medical advancement in history is handwashing and disinfecting before medical procedures. It's cool that you have that family history, but exception isn't any way to go at something. It isn't just made up that life expectancy was 40-50 years old for a very, very long time of human history.
The average lifespan pre-industrial revolution was 24 years dude. The child mortality rate was 40%. Granted, that wasn't all due to poor hygiene and a lack of antiseptics but those things certainly were a factor.
Good for your family for beating the odds but your exception doesn't prove anything.
just think about 20% of the population have appendectomies. That is 20% of the population that just dropped dead from what we easily can have removed now.
Whatevs..
Yall got it all figured out. Haha
I'm not saying health was better back then, I'm saying that you won't die the first time you get sick or encounter germs.
Yall got it all figured out. Haha
I'm not saying health was better back then, I'm saying that you won't die the first time you get sick or encounter germs.
I would check this thread, wanting to see what is being said about touching tobacco, and then I have to figure out why everyone is talking about death.