This to my reading is the current definitive document for the layman…pretty good stuff to check out!
Pipe Smoking and Mental Health
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GOOD QUESTION!
I am also waiting eagerly to find out how cigrmaster's story ended.
Friendships are essential. But they are different than seeing a therapist. They are not the same, they are not mutually exclusive. They are different, with a different set of values.
We are not all therapists. Therapists go through expansive training and education. They understand the intricacies of human behavior. They can help guide you, based on that training and understanding of context. Your therapist is often effective in ways that an acquaintance can not be because they are NOT your friend.
A chat with someone at the bus stop may be therapeutic, but it is by no means psychotherapy. I find target shooting to be very therapeutic, but I certainly don't consider it to be psychotherapy.
Perhaps that works for you, and perhaps you believe that would work for others. My experience differs.
I hope I haven't given the impression that I am fully opposed to therapy. I know it works for some. Some think it works for them and, that's a good thing. Others play the therapist like a fine violin to validate behavior. There are no more, nor less competent individuals in that profession than as in any other.
It is one of those professions, like teaching, law enforcement, and others, which attract incompetents as well as the dedicated.
It is one of those professions, like teaching, law enforcement, and others, which attract incompetents as well as the dedicated.
Pipe smoking helps me get thru the day gives me something to look forward to when I get home from work. Has provided a social outlet ie the forums and the pipe club I attend when I can. So yes.
Just as all therapists are not equal to the task, not all patients are equal when it comes to responding to therapists.
Is this one nearing clarity and/or conclusion?
Please add cogent thoughts in the next day or two- if you have them!
Please add cogent thoughts in the next day or two- if you have them!
Yep. All joking aside, I think therapists (myself included) are some of the most disturbed people I know.
Here’s the thing though- it’s not the overtly distressed people I’m afraid of in life, it’s the folk who think- and pretend to be- normal.
It seems that the average serial killer or mad dog assassin recently is uniformly a nice guy, good neighbor, but real quiet, you know??
I think the clarity is, some of us can recognize our problems and fix them. If you’re some who is really struggling with something, say something to someone. Whether it be a good friend, a good therapist, religion, hell sometimes just saying it out loud to yourself helps. We all have our quirks and it’s nice everyone shared their own experiences because that in it self can help some others and even ourselves.
The best thing is, we all agree on one thing, that we all enjoy pipe smoking for whatever our reason is. So cheers to all you gentlemen! Have a good smoke and a good day!
The best thing is, we all agree on one thing, that we all enjoy pipe smoking for whatever our reason is. So cheers to all you gentlemen! Have a good smoke and a good day!
I happen to appreciate your consistent attitude of “Let’s not get ahead of ourselves saying pipes and pipe forums promote better health. We really don’t have the evidence for that.”
Here here! I’ve enjoyed smoking my pipe reading this thread!!
I hope nothing I said offended you as a therapist, really do see the need for some people to have them in their lives. I also have a little sympathy for therapists because I can imagine the frustration of trying to help someone that doesn’t want to use the advice to help themselves. Like I said, I know two people who go and literally make no attempt at changing. In my personal opinion though, I don’t think they really want to and have found comfort in their distress.
Some personal problems/stressors are simply to be accepted and manipulated so as to act as positives while trying to make life better. The statement, "Life's a bitch and then we die." is very true for many. This is especially true for those whose profession means they witness, many times, man's incredible inhumanity to his fellow humans.
A lot of truth in the above. Wisdom even.
I have this study in print and I can look it up later, but for now I’ll just second this notion and add that this is the reason that insurance companies consider pipe smokers to be non-smokers for their purposes.
I do so enjoy the posts by those seeking validation for their choice. Always entertaining.
"It's none of my business what you think of me."
Warren, I am reminded of the Big Lebowskis’s timeless words….
”that’s just like….your opinion man”
thank you for sharing, ?
”that’s just like….your opinion man”
thank you for sharing, ?