On Hipsters

[deathmetal]

YouTube = Google = evil = cherry aromatics = Netflix 1-star reviews, etc.

 

[pappymac]

Here's a bottom line to this discussion. I don't care. Whether someone is a hipster or not doesn't affect my pocketbook, my choice of pipes or tobacco, or my pleasure of smoking my pipe.

 

[cosmicfolklore]

+1 Pappy, what someone else in general chooses for themself, doesn't affect me at all. If my neighbor chooses to wear a goat on their head, more power to them. Just clean up after the goat when it poops is all I would ask.

 

[cosmicfolklore]

...and how are Hipsters violating any of that garbledy goop you posted?

 

[skraps]

Your post was a blanket statement... So I addressed it as one.

It was not a blanket statement at all, it was a direct statement on how "HE" feels about the impact that another individual will or will not have on his life.
(Sorry for seeming to speak for you, Mike, just interpreting here. Correct me if I'm wrong)
The fact is, the "garbeldy goop" that Mike mentioned has zero to do with whether someone identifying as a hipster has a negative impact upon any of us. If your general attitude is to live and let live... then the conversation is over.
Not all of us our concerned with some perceived cataclysmic impact of "hipsterism" on the world.

 

[cosmicfolklore]

Yeh, ha ha, I was posting in the hipster thread, so...

Ha ha, but I understand. Sometimes I do the same thing, get caught up in the comments and forget what the thread is about.

 

[warren]

There's a conflict in the above: If "no man is an island" then of course we need to cope with the dysfunction. I try to be as self-contained and self-reliant as is possible. I'm pretty much an observer of society, less a participant. And yes, that's a coping mechanism. I limit my participation as member of society to paying my taxes, peacefully co-existing where possible, and keeping human contact to a bare minimum.
Hipsters are simply, well . . . hipsters. Studied by some, reviled by others, ignored by many and embraced by some. Other than the amusement the "movement" provides on this forum, it is nothing worthy of serious interest on my part. Simply no relevance to my life except as entertainment. As, I believe it was, the Bard wrote: "life is a stage . . . " Very little in life, other than family, needs to be taken too seriously. Mostly, I'm simply in the audience, enjoying the show.

 

[cosmicfolklore]

Alright, now we just get into semantic stupid. If it doesn't pertain to hipsters... Or, maybe you have a problem with people who wear goats? Jeesh folks.

 

[cosmicfolklore]

Well, I am glad that you agree, and apology accepted. ::

 

[skraps]

People and their foibles are the ultimate discussion topic.

And there in lies the problem. To comment on someones "foibles" (great word by the way) requires us to make a judgement of an individual, and not always an accurate one.
My observation after reading this thread... I have seen a more clear definition of the word stereotype than I have of the word hipster.

 

[skraps]

That they are no longer a mere "me," but an element in the greater "us." It is a transformative event.

That's some scary shite for sure. Explains the "Feel the Bern" movement. Terrifying.

 

[drumweezer]

I must be honest. This thread reads, feels, and sounds like an old cliche: predominantly white men trying to ascertain whose penis is bigger by quoting the most theorists or philosophers or responding the longest. I know some individuals on this forum have asked the question: Where are the female pipe smokers? This might be why.

 

[skraps]

I must be honest. This thread reads, feels, and sounds like an old cliche: predominantly white men trying to ascertain whose penis is bigger by quoting the most theorists or philosophers or responding the longest.

LMAO, you might not be far from the truth there... but as the old cliche goes... "Don't judge a book by it's cover"

 

[warren]

But, I always judge a book by it's cover. The cover carries the author's name. I usually select my reading matter by subject (front or rear cover blurb) matter and author. Cover art? Rarely. Otherwise, a recommendation by someone whose opinion I respect.
drumwheezer: The membership is predominately white men. So it should read, sound and feel as such. As to your reference to wedding tackle, you have coughed up a stereotype. In response, I would hope the female pipe smokers are either pregnant, barefoot and down on the farm. Or, in the kitchen preparing a meal for their man.

 

[cosmicfolklore]

The membership is predominately white men.

Who are you calling predominate?

 

[warren]

My apologies! It should have read "predatory white men."

 

[cosmicfolklore]

Ha ha!!

 

[warren]

I believe her post was the longest paragraph I've ever seen. Very tough duty trying to read on a monitor.

 

[deathmetal]

If "no man is an island" then of course we need to cope with the dysfunction.

Makes sense.

I have seen a more clear definition of the word stereotype than I have of the word hipster.

You missed some posts, I think. There's that great AdBusters article and then all the commentary. Short version: a hipster is anyone who adopts an activity as a lifestyle accessory, and instead of doing it for its own sake, does it as a form of virtue signaling.

 

[cosmicfolklore]

I have to wonder how we know whether an individual is smoking a pipe just as an affectation verses any of a million of other reasons. We have many members of this forum that fit the hipster stereotype. And, as I've said many times, I've met many great people at pipe shows, events, and lately in my pipe club that fit the stereotype as well. Are we not running off a valuable part of our forum with posts that seem to ostracize them like this one? This seems more detrimental to our hobby than a fixedly bike, bow tie wearing, whatever else associated hipster.
Talking about judging a book, back in the 80's the most neo-conservative person I knew was a long haired guy who wore tie dyes. And, now, the most socialist liberal person I know is a retired Marine that wears a 48 strapped to his hip and rides a Harley. I think it's just silly to keep pounding this whole thing into the dirt with multiple posts on what people chose to look like. And, it "seems" to have driven off a few very active participants of our forum.
What negative consequence for us can there possibly be for a person who makes a lifestyle choice to smoke pipes and join us in talking about this hobby with us? Why is it necessary to keep posting stuff like this? I am no forum Nazi, and I am the last person to tell someone what and what not to post, but maybe a little foresight might keep us from ruining our community.
We used to have more variation of ethnicity and gender participating in discussions with us, but this last year, I can't help but wonder why things have changed.