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The upside of no longer being in the target demographic is you can listen to oldies and ignore the "new stuff." In my favorite genre only one singer/writer still lives. Eighty-three or so and still going. My age group isn't targeted by many anymore; Metamucil, Depends, hearing aids, rest homes and that's about it. AARP isn't even interested, they're going for the fifty somethings.
brian64 - I completely agree, it is exponentially worse than 1983. That's why underground is so important. It's the only place important issues are being explored and addressed. Protest songs haven't gone away. They are being played in your hometown, hopefully, by young musicians as we speak.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8zAK3wpFuNE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1zSWabCjU4Y
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8zAK3wpFuNE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1zSWabCjU4Y
@Warren: lol very true. I'm the 50 something you refer to, and I knew I was getting old when I started being solicited by AARP. But lately it seems I'm also regularly receiving sales pitches for grave plots and cremation services. They must be as desperate for business as everyone else these days if they're targeting my age bracket. But then I'm sure the average life expectancy is dropping along with the continual increase in chronic diseases.
@mayfair: Agreed. As I commented earlier in the thread, authentic stuff is still out there, it's just mostly under the radar these days.
@mayfair: Agreed. As I commented earlier in the thread, authentic stuff is still out there, it's just mostly under the radar these days.
Willie. He's the last of the 50's. Lord knows, he is much more than that but, Bloody Mary Morning, now there was a song!
Somebody's boring me, I think it's me. One of Dylan's great lines. Another favorite of mine. Not Bob, Dylan Thomas.
Willie Nelson has written so many GREAT songs. One of my favorite stories is where he was pretty down and writing the song "Crazy" (Patsy Cline made it famous for our younger viewers) and said he wanted to call it "Stupid". If you know the song and insert stupid for crazy in the lyrics it is funny as hell.
Just listened to Bloody Mary Morning. Nice! Country, especially slide guitar, reminds me of my Grandfather. He used to play slide and was VERY good at it. I've still got his early 1960's Bigsby pedal.
One thing I love about Willie, aside form his prolific song writing (you can always tell his songs, his style is unmistakable) is whenever he gets busted for weed on his tour bus he gets off by saying he's holding it for a "friend".
Just listened to Bloody Mary Morning. Nice! Country, especially slide guitar, reminds me of my Grandfather. He used to play slide and was VERY good at it. I've still got his early 1960's Bigsby pedal.
One thing I love about Willie, aside form his prolific song writing (you can always tell his songs, his style is unmistakable) is whenever he gets busted for weed on his tour bus he gets off by saying he's holding it for a "friend".
Hipsters are like hemorrhoids. They cling on to the last moments of a civilization, and demand attention by being obnoxious.
Well... that's a good thing!
For someone of my generation, 60s rock rings hollow. It's so simple... innocent... rebellion against an easy target. To an 80s mindset, it seems almost like children's music.
Now don't get me wrong... I dig old Black Sabbath, King Crimson and The Stooges. But that was more 1970s than 1960s.
The 60s just seem like a simpler, easier time and how convenient it was to tell the authority figures to f--k off without a plan for what would replace them.
I can't think of any 60s rock I listen to, and I listen widely
There's never been any need to replace anything...no need to reinvent the wheel. The only need is the same now as it was then: constitutional law equally applied. The only "authority figures" that are a problem are the ones that are above the law.
As far as simpler, I'm not sure about that. Perhaps in some ways it was, but young people post-'60s have never had to deal with being drafted into a Viet Nam. I'm certainly glad I was too young to have to deal with that. I suspect that would have the effect of greatly complicating the lives of young people these days if that were to occur again.
So you agree with some, say the New Right, that the 1968ers were merely recapitulating classic American values?
A troubling conclusion.
In the meantime, I wish I were as cool as the C&D dudes. I think it has very little if anything to do with beards and tattoos (ouch! needles!).
A troubling conclusion.
In the meantime, I wish I were as cool as the C&D dudes. I think it has very little if anything to do with beards and tattoos (ouch! needles!).
No, I was just expressing my own opinion. I wasn't suggesting that everyone back then would have agreed with it. I'm sure there were all kinds of crazy ideas about what some wanted to see happen...just as there are these days.
As I've commented before, I don't see what happened in the '60s as all one thing. There was all manner of disagreement, confusion and ignorance then just like now. There were also agent provocateurs involved then, just as there are now.
Yeh, I don't like music. I don't care for articles either ...and, I don't like kids much either. :
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I can't believe you guys are still talking. I thought we sorted this out. I was right, and everyone else was wrong, didn't you read the memo?
:I can't believe you guys are still talking. I thought we sorted this out. I was right, and everyone else was wrong, didn't you read the memo?
First, not all fraternities are the same. Admittedly, I did not and will never read the article. Why people don't paraphrase what they want us to know from an article instead of just assuming that we will read them, like we have all day to peruse articles at your leisure. But, I was also in a fraternity, which was a spiritual frat, in which my dues were taken by doing public service. We also had a hippie frat on campus, or what us pipesmokers would call hippie. It was for the drug kids, black T-shirt bands and tie-dye kids. So, remove stereotyping all frats as rick kids getting bonkered on kegs of beers, and I can believe that he was in a frat.
Second, I have had dinner with Bob Dylan. My best friend is the manager of our local historical theater, and some musicians will have dinner added to their contract. Of all of the musicians that I have met, Bob Dylan is the most hateful asshole I've ever met. He is rude and hateful, when all he had to do was have the dinner removed from the contract instead of behaving like an ass. He also has a clause added when he performs that stipulates that all stagehands, roadies, an blue collar staff are not allowed within twenty yards of him. He hates working men, and doesn't like gaga eyed fans. However, he will have dinner with the most influential people in town. Ha ha, he is a two-faced tool.
On second thought, maybe he was in one of those rich boy frats. BTW, John Prine is the absolutely nicest person I've ever met. He makes you feel like you're meeting an old friend, very warm and kind in all ways. However, I had to stop doing the dinners with musicians thing. After a while I found that I had absolutely nothing to say to someone whose music I like. My all time favorite musician is Willie Nelson, and I felt like a fool for just setting there and looking at someone I had no idea what to say to.
Second, I have had dinner with Bob Dylan. My best friend is the manager of our local historical theater, and some musicians will have dinner added to their contract. Of all of the musicians that I have met, Bob Dylan is the most hateful asshole I've ever met. He is rude and hateful, when all he had to do was have the dinner removed from the contract instead of behaving like an ass. He also has a clause added when he performs that stipulates that all stagehands, roadies, an blue collar staff are not allowed within twenty yards of him. He hates working men, and doesn't like gaga eyed fans. However, he will have dinner with the most influential people in town. Ha ha, he is a two-faced tool.
On second thought, maybe he was in one of those rich boy frats. BTW, John Prine is the absolutely nicest person I've ever met. He makes you feel like you're meeting an old friend, very warm and kind in all ways. However, I had to stop doing the dinners with musicians thing. After a while I found that I had absolutely nothing to say to someone whose music I like. My all time favorite musician is Willie Nelson, and I felt like a fool for just setting there and looking at someone I had no idea what to say to.
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