This hunt for codger blends recipes is turning into something of a detective novel.
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@highwindows : I somehow don't expect a Raymond Chandler tribute novel called 'The Big Sauce' or 'Fragrant My Lovely' showing up anytime soon!
Since I believe Gawith claims to follow the Purity laws I wonder if their toppings are artificial or natural.
To be far I did notice added flavour with Grousemoor, Kendal Cream Flake, Ennerdale, and McConnell's Red Virgina (another brand all together I know) but hardly anything with St Bruno and Erinmore.
To be far I did notice added flavour with Grousemoor, Kendal Cream Flake, Ennerdale, and McConnell's Red Virgina (another brand all together I know) but hardly anything with St Bruno and Erinmore.
I think it was Bob from Gawith on the PM podcast explaining that they do use synthetic ingredients on certain blends. I believe they had to stop using real Tonquin Beans because it has coumarin.
That could be my mistake on why they switched to an artificial flavoring agent.
I've heard they did the same with many deertongue blends for the same reason.
I still see green bits in my Crooner. It must be the deer tongue, right?
Always tasted like soap to me, industrial soap. Not your Imperial Leather kind of soap, more along the lines of the soap you'll find in a grim factory up north...in an even grimmer khazi! Lol. My old man smoked Condor Long Cut for 60 odd years or so. The best he could come up with was that it had a 'soapy' taste.
In his head, which is probably in the clouds or up his arse. One of the joys of the Internet, converse with the masses or rise above it. Either way, the silent majority will continue to relish your company's wonderful array of tobaccos.
If untrue, online retailers need to be informed as to not be held for false advertising. The claim is there, reviews, and discussions and has been a big selling point of the product versus heavily artificially flavored blends.
"In many of their mixtures, Samuel Gawith maintains the standards enforced by the United Kingdom's strict purity laws of the 19th and 20th centuries — such laws dictating how much and what type of flavorings could be added to pipe tobacco and ensuring that sub-quality leaf wasn't hidden under the veil of exorbitant toppings."
Chocolate Flake 50g - Samuel Gawith | Smokingpipes.com
Samuel Gawith's Mayor's Chocolate Flake is a luxury blend of Virginias, Burley, and a small amount of long leaf Latakias with a rich, dark chocolate added after cutting.
www.smokingpipes.com
So in certain mixtures, no one is stating which mixtures or exactly what. .....
I am not even sure if the 19th century purity laws are even still in existence. I imagine health and safety and other regulations have moved on rather a lot since then!!! And we have to abide by current regulations which are far more strict in many cases.
We certainly don't use sub-standard leaf.
I am not even sure if the 19th century purity laws are even still in existence. I imagine health and safety and other regulations have moved on rather a lot since then!!! And we have to abide by current regulations which are far more strict in many cases.
We certainly don't use sub-standard leaf.
I have stated before, to no one in particular, that Rich Dark Honeydew by G&H reminds me a lot of the flavour of 90’s Condor, more so than the present version tastes like the ‘90’s version of Condor.
I appreciate that Rich Dark Spring/honey dew may well be nothing like the Gallaher’s Rich Dark Honeydew that has long since gone but since Gallaher’s originally made both Condor and Rich Dark Honeydew I put forward the suggestion that Condor has an element of honey in it somewhere…maybe…possibly?
@gawithhoggarth - is RDH an older tobacco than Gallaher’s RDH? Did Gallaher’s take inspiration from your blend originally?
I do have to say that G&H RDH, in it’s modern form (I have never tried any previous forms so I couldn’t say) doesn’t smell like the Condor I remember smelling so I could be way off the mark. The new Condor doesn’t smell like the old Condor either - the only reason I remember this is because as a child, if we were good, we used to be allowed to smell Grandpa’s baccy pouch which was, usually, Condor. I know, life was hard back in the 80’s…the only bit of fun we used to get was to sniff Grandpa’s baccy pouch. ?
I appreciate that Rich Dark Spring/honey dew may well be nothing like the Gallaher’s Rich Dark Honeydew that has long since gone but since Gallaher’s originally made both Condor and Rich Dark Honeydew I put forward the suggestion that Condor has an element of honey in it somewhere…maybe…possibly?
@gawithhoggarth - is RDH an older tobacco than Gallaher’s RDH? Did Gallaher’s take inspiration from your blend originally?
I do have to say that G&H RDH, in it’s modern form (I have never tried any previous forms so I couldn’t say) doesn’t smell like the Condor I remember smelling so I could be way off the mark. The new Condor doesn’t smell like the old Condor either - the only reason I remember this is because as a child, if we were good, we used to be allowed to smell Grandpa’s baccy pouch which was, usually, Condor. I know, life was hard back in the 80’s…the only bit of fun we used to get was to sniff Grandpa’s baccy pouch. ?
I stick with the Lakelands that the large dependable online retailers identify as non-aromatic, and they've been good, and apparently non-aromatic. Rose geranium doesn't appeal to me, even if it didn't ghost so strongly. I do enjoy some aromatics that aren't Lakeland blends, but always want a tobacco forward blend. I have only three or four Lakeland blends, non-aros, that I enjoy. I've just discovered Squadron Leader and appreciate its balance.