She got a chunky little fella!Big puppy! And cute!
She got a chunky little fella!Big puppy! And cute!
The design of the pipe was registered 1904
Dave,This one got away on me. I wanted to bring it home. I truly hope whoever purchased it treasures this taonga tūturu
RARE, c1900 HEAVILY CARVED BRIAR PIPE WITH MĀORI DECORATION ACROSS ENTIRE BOWL | eBay
I have only sold one in the last 20 years. Great carving of face with tongue out on face of bowl. Height (bowl): 50. In good, used condition. Beautiful piece, silver (unmarked) band.www.ebay.co.uk
Dang! I hope that it’s at least making its way to New Zealand, even if it’s not to your home.This one got away on me. I wanted to bring it home. I truly hope whoever purchased it treasures this taonga tūturu
RARE, c1900 HEAVILY CARVED BRIAR PIPE WITH MĀORI DECORATION ACROSS ENTIRE BOWL | eBay
I have only sold one in the last 20 years. Great carving of face with tongue out on face of bowl. Height (bowl): 50. In good, used condition. Beautiful piece, silver (unmarked) band.www.ebay.co.uk
The Kiwi in me hopes so too…the pipe smoker in me however kinda hopes it stays in the UK and gets put into rotation. If I had won it I don’t think I could legally smoke it.Dang! I hope that it’s at least making its way to New Zealand, even if it’s not to your home.
What's the law that would prevent smoking this pipe?The Kiwi in me hopes so too…the pipe smoker in me however kinda hopes it stays in the UK and gets put into rotation. If I had won it I don’t think I could legally smoke it.
Not specifically. However given the age and provenance of the pipe’s carving style this item would be considered a taonga tūturu (Māori cultural treasure).What's the law that would prevent smoking this pipe?
I have seen one other such pipe that was in the family collection of someone in an English pipe making family. I'm interested to hear what you think the provenance of this pipe is: where and when it was made, and so forth. It's interesting to me because I had assumed that, due to the lack of identifying marks (other than the obvious Maori motifs) the pipe was otherwise unidentifiable, so I was surprised to see such vigorous bidding.Not specifically. However given the age and provenance of the pipe’s carving style this item would be considered a taonga tūturu (Māori cultural treasure).
To legally import it I would need to be a registered collector of taonga Māori (I am), and upon importing I would need to declare the inclusion of this taonga within my collection and provide details of how it will be stored etc.
I am supportive of this legislation, even if it doesn’t make sense in a different cultural context.
This museum has a nice collection, otherwise it is all up to looking through auction house results or individual museums. As you will see many are hallmarked and are marquees we normally chat about here.I have seen one other such pipe that was in the family collection of someone in an English pipe making family. I'm interested to hear what you think the provenance of this pipe is: where and when it was made, and so forth. It's interesting to me because I had assumed that, due to the lack of identifying marks (other than the obvious Maori motifs) the pipe was otherwise unidentifiable, so I was surprised to see such vigorous bidding.
Yes!!! So stoked that it’s making its way to you!This museum has a nice collection, otherwise it is all up to looking through auction house results or individual museums. As you will see many are hallmarked and are marquees we normally chat about here.
Amsterdam Pipe Museum - Collection
pipemuseum.nl
(If the link doesn’t show properly, do a search with “Māori” as the ethnicity)
By provenance, I was referring to the provenance of the carving style and not the pipe itself. It is the aftermarket Māori carving which makes this pipe a protected object under heritage NZ’s legislation.
What caught my eye with this particular example is how the carver’s approach works with the shape of the pipe, and embellishes it.They were obviously a very talented kai whakairo (carver) and I wouldn’t be surprised if this was their personal pipe. The examples I have come across are either quite outlandish (though, again phenomenal workmanship) or were catered towards the tourist market. The exception to this are pipes which were carved in the trenches of WW1 and contain a mixture of Māori patterns and military insignia/battle locations.
As for the pipe’s provenance, I’m assuming it is an early century piece given the tenon and orific button. Most probably turned in France and then sold by a Brittish marquee. The metal band seems to be a later addition given how the carving continues under it. I wonder if it was a repair band. If removed one could see if the carving continued through to the stem connection, or if stops short allowing for an original band.
I do think the pipe is from the UK, hence my inclusion of it in this thread. Either sold in the UK and carved by a Kiwi soldier or expatriate, or imported to NZ and then taken to the UK sometime in the last century. The vast majority of antique pipes in NZ appear to have come from the UK, which makes sense given the commonwealth.
Please excuse the excited remarks of this kiwi. I just received notification that the winner of the auction has since passed on the pipe and it has been offered to me as the second highest bidder. This baby is coming home!
And in the unlikely scenario that the bidder changed their mind after seeing my comments in this thread, I bid you a hearty Chur bruda! Please get in touch
This museum has a nice collection, otherwise it is all up to looking through auction house results or individual museums. As you will see many are hallmarked and are marquees we normally chat about here.
Amsterdam Pipe Museum - Collection
pipemuseum.nl
(If the link doesn’t show properly, do a search with “Māori” as the ethnicity)
By provenance, I was referring to the provenance of the carving style and not the pipe itself. It is the aftermarket Māori carving which makes this pipe a protected object under heritage NZ’s legislation.
What caught my eye with this particular example is how the carver’s approach works with the shape of the pipe, and embellishes it.They were obviously a very talented kai whakairo (carver) and I wouldn’t be surprised if this was their personal pipe. The examples I have come across are either quite outlandish (though, again phenomenal workmanship) or were catered towards the tourist market. The exception to this are pipes which were carved in the trenches of WW1 and contain a mixture of Māori patterns and military insignia/battle locations.
As for the pipe’s provenance, I’m assuming it is an early century piece given the tenon and orific button. Most probably turned in France and then sold by a Brittish marquee. The metal band seems to be a later addition given how the carving continues under it. I wonder if it was a repair band. If removed one could see if the carving continued through to the stem connection, or if stops short allowing for an original band.
I do think the pipe is from the UK, hence my inclusion of it in this thread. Either sold in the UK and carved by a Kiwi soldier or expatriate, or imported to NZ and then taken to the UK sometime in the last century. The vast majority of antique pipes in NZ appear to have come from the UK, which makes sense given the commonwealth.
Please excuse the excited remarks of this kiwi. I just received notification that the winner of the auction has since passed on the pipe and it has been offered to me as the second highest bidder. This baby is coming home!
And in the unlikely scenario that the bidder changed their mind after seeing my comments in this thread, I bid you a hearty Chur bruda! Please get in touch
This cased BBB with a great Montreal tobacconists label in the case did a little better than I’d hoped it would.
BBB Estate Pipe A F & Co Dated 1910 Sterling Band with Case British Made | eBay
This item is a collectible BBB estate pipe. Originally sold by Cochenthaler, Tobacconist in Montreal, Canada. British Made pipe. Bent billiard. Smooth finish. Round shank to stem fit. Screw in stem. Wide sterling band marked BBB in a diamond, A F & Co and with a date code of 1910. The bent...www.ebay.com
SameThis cased BBB with a great Montreal tobacconists label in the case did a little better than I’d hoped it would.
BBB Estate Pipe A F & Co Dated 1910 Sterling Band with Case British Made | eBay
This item is a collectible BBB estate pipe. Originally sold by Cochenthaler, Tobacconist in Montreal, Canada. British Made pipe. Bent billiard. Smooth finish. Round shank to stem fit. Screw in stem. Wide sterling band marked BBB in a diamond, A F & Co and with a date code of 1910. The bent...www.ebay.com
Yeah, it was clean for sure. It looked pretty typical design wise for a 1910 pipe, threaded bone tenon with a condenser extension and an orific bit.