I Prefer to Smoke Hot and Fast Is There a Tobacco for Me?

[alaskanpiper]

If you are intent on inhaling, go with a stronger shag cut, and pack it a little loose. It will burn very well so even small sips will give you a throat hit you’re looking for.

Five brothers will do the trick and is easy to find. Gawith Dark Birdseye is another option, or if you dont mind spending a little more Tabac Manil Le Petit Robin would do it.

But at that point, honestly, you’re pretty much smoking unfiltered cigarettes, haha.

However, pipe tobacco is really not designed to be inhaled. If you want to try and get the nic fix without inhaling, any of the gawith ropes/twists would work, peterson irish flake/rattrays stirling flake, or possibly the new MacBaren HH rustica, or Daughters and Ryan Picayune.

 

[trubka2]

If you're coming from cigarettes, you're not going to notice much nicotine if any at all from pipe tobacco

100% agreed, there's very little nic by comparison. I would add that I find most non-British aros have barely any nic at all. So, yeah, get some straight stuff, lots of good suggestions above. I kicked cigs with strong burley blends, but I still had to muscle through a period of withdrawal. Then again, I smoked a lot of cigs every day for decades.

 

[Chasing Embers]

If you are intent on inhaling, go with a stronger shag cut, and pack it a little loose. It will burn very well so even small sips will give you a throat hit you’re looking for.

Five brothers will do the trick and is easy to find. Gawith Dark Birdseye is another option, or if you dont mind spending a little more Tabac Manil Le Petit Robin would do it.

But at that point, honestly, you’re pretty much smoking unfiltered cigarettes, haha.

However, pipe tobacco is really not designed to be inhaled. If you want to try and get the nic fix without inhaling, any of the gawith ropes/twists would work, peterson irish flake/rattrays stirling flake, or possibly the new MacBaren HH rustica, or Daughters and Ryan Picayune.

I've not found one yet to scratch the cigarette itch. Cigarettes, cigars, pipes, and chewing tobacco satisfy different cravings but one has never been able to substitute another.

 

[alaskanpiper]

I've not found one yet to scratch the cigarette itch. Cigarettes, cigars, pipes, and chewing tobacco satisfy different cravings but one has never been able to substitute another.

Yeah, when I said “You’re pretty much smoking unfiltered cigarettes” I simply meant from a health perspective.

Fully agree, the different tobacco administration families all hit differently. My suggestions are simply the next best thing in the pipe world, but you are right, comparing them is somewhat apples and oranges.

 

[Chasing Embers]

Yeah, when I said “You’re pretty much smoking unfiltered cigarettes” I simply meant from a health perspective.

Fully agree, the different tobacco administration families all hit differently. My suggestions are simply the next best thing in the pipe world, but you are right, comparing them is somewhat apples and oranges.

Yep. The only way to quit one is just to quit.

 

[alaskanpiper]

Yep. The only way to quit one is just to quit.

Mostly agree, but the one exception for me has been tobacco free nicotine pouches (Zyn or On!) Placed in the upper lip they have a very similar nic-hit to snus.

I’ve stopped using snus entirely as a result, except on the occasional hunting or fishing trip, maybe 2 or 3 cans a year. That salty bergamot taste is hard to replicate, hahaha, but the nic-hit is almost identical.

 

[trubka2]

tobacco free nicotine pouches

I tried those on your rec, and they've been great for getting through long days in pipe enemy territory.

 

[alaskanpiper]

I tried those on your rec, and they've been great for getting through long days in pipe enemy territory.

Yep. Especially airplanes/airports.

 

[davek]

Some nice strong Burley, as many seem to have said.
Quit all tobacco for a while, as long as you can. A couple days would help a lot, weeks would be better. Then smoke a strong Burley without inhaling. You can get a nic hit without inhaling.

 

[Country Bladesmith]

For some reason it is often the case that new pipe smokers begin with aromatics. They tend to be full of moisture and sugar, and typically lack much tobacco flavor (with some exceptions of course) or nicotine. New pipers tend to go to a fast cadence (too fast) right out of the gate because they are struggling to get flavor out of the aro blend, struggling to get some nicotine, or just dealing with the new mechanics of trying to keep their pipe lit. All of this makes a hot, wet, biting smoke.
Some folks have mentioned Peterson Irish Flake, which is what I would recommend. It has a great mixture of natural tobacco flavor from the Virginias and the dark fired Kentucky, and plenty of nicotine. I would also research the “breath method” for slowing down your cadence. Once you get slowed down and scratch that nicotine itch, I think you’ll be amazed at how good the pipe tobacco tastes compared to over the counter cigs.

 

[greeneyes]

Dark Bird's Eye. That's the tobacco for you.

 

[Chasing Embers]

I think you’ll be amazed at how good the pipe tobacco tastes compared to over the counter cigs.

Ever retrohaled a cigarette? More flavorful than you think. Coming from cigarettes myself, I've yet to experience nicotine in any pipe tobacco I've smoked in the past thirty years, and I'm including the Gawith catalog, Five Brothers, and the like.

 

[rushx9]

Ever retrohaled a cigarette? More flavorful than you think. Coming from cigarettes myself, I've yet to experience nicotine in any pipe tobacco I've smoked in the past thirty years, and I'm including the Gawith catalog, Five Brothers, and the like.

I gotta agree with Country Blade there.. I was finally able to quit cigs this last new year after trying for a solid 6 months. One of the things that bothered me the most was still craving cigs between pipes. Everytime I was smoking a pipe I was thinking about the nic hit from a cig, but every time I was smoking a cig I was thinking about how much better the pipe tastes. I've retrohaled and every which kinda "-hale" you can do, and cig smoke is always thin and dull compared to the flavor explosion from a pipe.
I was able to break the cigarette habit with a combination of will power and nicotine "therapy" by smoking high nicotine blends every other hour or so and using snus when the cravings were overwhelming or I couldn't smoke the pipe. It took will power to not just grab more cigs, but keeping a certain amount of nicotine in your bloodstream all day let's you know your just dealing with desire and not physical addiction. Same principle as nicotine patches and gum, but with a pipe you still get to smoke, just not inhale.
I know that you and many others enjoy all forms of tobacco consumption, but a lot of people come to the pipe looking for an alternative nicotine delivery system and hoping to quit cigs. They may be different itches, but the pipe can scratch the cig itch if you've got the determination to limit yourself to one scratcher for all itches!
Also, there were definitely times after my last cig when smoking a high nicotine blend (Royal Yacht, Condor, G&H Ropes, and 1792) that I felt completely "satisfied". All cravings were sated and the thought of smoking anything else would have been too much. It's true that sensitivity to nicotine can vary from person to person, but for us mere mortals (you and Jim excluded) the pipe can provide a satisfying nicotine hit!

 

[Chasing Embers]

but for us mere mortals (you and Jim excluded) the pipe can provide a satisfying nicotine hit!

Jim said I had Kryptonian DNA for calling Bold Kentucky mild.

 

[PaulTheScandinavian]

in This regards, I'd say your best bet is any Kentucky burley type ribbon cut tobacco
In Europe, mainly in France and Italy, there are quite a few domestically sold, lesser-known brands with high nicotine content, and all those come in a ribbon cut form,

 

[docpierce]

I will go out on a limb and recommend Old Joe Krantz or Haunted Bookshop- by made by C&D.

 

[dcon]

In the years I was managing a tobacco store, when I was helping someone convert from cigs to the pipe, I always wanted to know what cigarettes they were smoking. I believe that tastes does matter in the conversion. If you were smoking Marlboros and most US domestic cigs, I would, like many here have, recommend a burley blend. If, on the other hand, someone was smoking Camels or Yendijes, I would recommend something with some Turkish, usually a heavy English blend. The last group of smokers were, like me, coming from Dunhills. For these folks, the VA taste helps out. Any good strong VA (for a newbie a RR) would do the trick.

 

[rushx9]

In the years I was managing a tobacco store, when I was helping someone convert from cigs to the pipe, I always wanted to know what cigarettes they were smoking. I believe that tastes does matter in the conversion. If you were smoking Marlboros and most US domestic cigs, I would, like many here have, recommend a burley blend. If, on the other hand, someone was smoking Camels or Yendijes, I would recommend something with some Turkish, usually a heavy English blend. The last group of smokers were, like me, coming from Dunhills. For these folks, the VA taste helps out. Any good strong VA (for a newbie a RR) would do the trick.

^This! I switched back and forth between high nic blends and Presbyterian/Durbar/Whiteknight to get my Camel flavor fix. I could see Virginias and VaBurs working the same way for "red" smokers.

 

[dcon]

^This! I switched back and forth between high nic blends and Presbyterian/Durbar/Whiteknight to get my Camel flavor fix. I could see Virginias and VaBurs working the same way for "red" smokers.

I really had a lot of positive results with this formula. Rushx9 recommendation is a great one. I could not always afford my favorite Dunhill Blues back in the day so, I smoked a lot of Camel Lights. The Presbyterian, in particular, would be a great switch.
I would recommend to the OP to try to refrain from inhaling. It makes it harder to quit. Develop your retrohale. I never had “insatiable” nic cravings. I do believe that there are a great variety of products on the market to get that “fix”. I would probably just load up some Levi Garret or Redman and go do some yard work .

 

[rushx9]

@dcon , Presbyterian really hit that Camel Light spot. Durbar is no longer available but it seems more like full flavored or unfiltered Camels. GLP Charing Cross has been the best substitute for Durbar I've found so far and it presses those full flavored Turkish cig buttons as well.
@Bloody Marc , what brand of cigs did you favor?