Glocks are as Generic as a 1911
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I went with my friend Tom to a long haired hippy party in Westport in 1976.
I was not always an old lawyer with an ample waistline.
Tom was a wonderful, tall Italian boy with a Roman nose, who knew all of the seamier parts of Kansas City.
The air was thick with weed smoke (just like alfalfa hay smoldering) and Tom assured his friends I was cool, and a geniune redneck from Humansville.
This charmed couple of hippy girls, but as I was telling them of Humansville a jealous hippy boy walked up to me, and said
I don’t like red necks!
And I said I don’t either. Tom confuses hillbillies with red necks but I love Tom anyway.
And with that, the hippy boy pulled out a Buck 110 from his packet and I hit him so hard square on his chin he went out as cold as a block of ice.
Thr girls ran to the hippy boy all concerned and I said he’ll be fine in a few minutes, and I picked up the Buck and stuck it in my pocket.
One of the hippy girls says he’s been doing acid all day, he’s really a nice guy.
And the girls lead him to a kitchen and he wakes up completely and sees me and starts apologizing all over and said the Buck was a present to him from his dead grandfather and could he please have it back. He promised me no more trouble.
Doug, I’ve not always followed the Master’s call, but I’ve not ever stolen anything ever, in my life and I won’t.
Tom said, he’ll be cool, Van.
I handed him the Buck, and he tried to stick me with it and I’m sorry to say I almost lost my temper. I kicked his ass. Literally.
Then I looked at Tom, and said you bring him the knife back tomorrow.
I’m going back to where I belong.
And Tom reported to me the next day, the hippy boy was fine. His ass was sore, but no permanent damage.
Xxxxx
It’s hard to imagine now, just how many mean rodeo bulls bent on killing me I dodged at the Cattleman Auction, right across the road from Flora Farms today.
My hickory stick couldn’t begin to hurt one of those bulls. I had to be quicker than those horns.
That hippy boy was slow as a Jersey milk cow.
But that Jersey milk cow is the one most likely to get you. I have a scar on my head where one did.
It is genetic providence, the last time I was hospitalized was for food poisoning in 1985.
Before that salmonella in 1975.
If I die today it’s been a good run, but I might live to be 97, like Little Bob, a distant cousin of mine I’m sorry I’ll never be able to discuss the Hammons Murder Trial of 1913 with again.
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If I’m afraid I’ll need a gun to protect me and my wife I’m not about to go there, today.
The last time I saw Little Bob was just a few years ago, when he drove his girlfriend over in his golf cart to show her off to me while I was taking photos and they were cleaning the Lindley Prairie Christian Church, where services were held for that damned old James Hammons in 1913.
My grandmother I called Mammy would talk for hours about the Hammons Murder Trial.
Why, would any body want to cheat themselves of the best chance to live to be a hundred carrying a 1911 when the Israelis never carry one in Gaza, except Condition Tbree I dont know.
But I hope the good men that do get away with it slick, you know?
That was to keep the black powder in the revolvers drier, and additional security from dropping a capped revolver.
The saber was the primary arm, on the troopers left.
His revolver was handle forward under a flap on his right.
The worth of cavalry was the shock charge.
Until then the cavalry was the eyes and ears of the infantry.
I have a few photos of my great grandfather when he’s in his fifties and sixties and he’s prosperous.
Damn, he still looked as dangerous as he must have looked when the 12th Volunteer Missouri United States Cavalry helped win the the most lopsided battle of the Great Rebellion at Nashville. Hood’s army was destroyed and never afterwards a threat.
Battle of Nashville - Wikipedia
After Nashville they sent him West to the Powder River.
Powder River Battles (1865) - Wikipedia
And if he’d not caught the 1918 flu that killed his second wife and left him an invalid, he might well have lived to see victory over Japan.
Every part of a cavalry man’s kit was for a specific purpose.
His ass was sore, but no permanent damage.
Another gem here.
I love the few 1911s that I own, and while I don't carry as often as I used to, when I do it's either a little Browning 1911-380 or Sig P365. The 1911-380 fits my hand perfect, and it's pointless to carry in anything but condition 1. In fact, the leather holsters for 1911's only snap closed when the hammer is back.
I've been practising my George Takei impressions around the house lately and reading this thread is giving me extra practice. Yet another "Oh My.."
My wife is getting worried though.
I would say that Glocks are far more generic that 1911s
The Glock does what it does very well, but it is a soulless, plastic bullet hose.
The Glock does what it does very well, but it is a soulless, plastic bullet hose.
Unfortunately, the same kind of flap-over holsters were still in US military use for the 1911 up through the end my hitch in 1980
I believe they didn't change em until after I got out in 86 which was about the time they were transitioning to 9mm Beretta.
I traded a beautiful blued Dan Wesson Valor to a buddy for some cabinet work a few years ago. He's offered to sell it back to me and I'm going to be reunited with it.
This (and the previous debate here) is again why I (personally) believe the DA/SA to be THE superior pistol action type.
It literally solves every single problem/tradeoff debated here and on every other gun forum ad infinitum lol.
I carry round chambered, double action. No safeties, no condition angst, no stupid little trigger paddles that actually don't perform a single damn safety function, no squishy long pull 7.5lb weight triggers that are always in a crappy 'middle-ground'.
My first trigger pull is like 12 pounds.. there's no damn way it's going off unless I mean it to. Then all subsequent shots are like 4 lbs... light, short, and smooth as butter for accuracy. Ever wanna change between 12lbs and 4lbs? Press button/lever. Done.
I will never understand why more people don't get it/demand more ACTUAL options/diversity from these manufacturers. I think it's really just a mix of ignorance and crowd mentality... the few brands that have ever done DA/SA that weren't revolvers have been high-end European (Sig & Walther) or value-end foreign (Bersa & Canik) manufacturers.. and only half of those ever offering a hammerless or poly-framed option. I think most people truly don't understand that just because the American military or police never GI'd it doesn't mean it's inferior... in fact, many times just the opposite.
But until then I guess we are just stuck with 5,678 different flavours of Glock 19.. 4,965 flavours of 1911, and the never ending bickering back and forth over which one sucks a little less than the other haha
Don’t mistake my love of my 1911 for a disdain of any other platformThis (and the previous debate here) is again why I (personally) believe the DA/SA to be THE superior pistol action type.
It literally solves every single problem/tradeoff debated here and on every other gun forum ad infinitum lol.
I carry round chambered, double action. No safeties, no condition angst, no stupid little trigger paddles that actually don't perform a single damn safety function, no squishy long pull 7.5lb weight triggers that are always in a crappy 'middle-ground'.
My first trigger pull is like 12 pounds.. there's no damn way it's going off unless I mean it to. Then all subsequent shots are like 4 lbs... light, short, and smooth as butter for accuracy. Ever wanna change between 12lbs and 4lbs? Press button/lever. Done.
I will never understand why more people don't get it/demand more ACTUAL options/diversity from these manufacturers. I think it's really just a mix of ignorance and crowd mentality... the few brands that have ever done DA/SA that weren't revolvers have been high-end European (Sig & Walther) or value-end foreign (Bersa & Canik) manufacturers.. and only half of those ever offering a hammerless or poly-framed option. I think most people truly don't understand that just because the American military or police never GI'd it doesn't mean it's inferior... in fact, many times just the opposite.
But until then I guess we are just stuck with 5,678 different flavours of Glock 19.. 4,965 flavours of 1911, and the never ending bickering back and forth over which one sucks a little less than the other haha
My 1911 is my favorite carry on my motorcycle (with my XD a close second) because when on my bike I carry left handed, and I can shoot those two the best left handed. Anyone that thinks they can shoot right handed maneuvering a motorcycle has been watching too much Sons of Anarchy.
Strong side field carry (hunting, etc) is usually an EAA Poly Witness (DA/SA) in 10mm, loaded with 16 180XTP’s at 1325 or 200gr WFNGC’s at 1225 at the same with as a steel 1911 with 8 rounds, and faster (for me) to get accurate rounds under duress on target than my magnum wheelguns
.Concealed carry-depends…
Define the job, then pick the tool-trust me, I’ve got my bases covered.
SA, striker, DA/SA, both flavors of wheelguns, you name it. CZ, HK, Sig, Beretta, Taurus, Colt, S&W, Ruger, Glock, HiPoint (worth a laugh, but a gun that will not die from abuse), you name it-I’ve probably had one at some point.
Train with every platform you can get your hands on, there’s no guarantee that the weapon that you need to save your or someone else’s life with is going to be yours.
Slainté!
...and as an additional PSA, please do not cheap out on the holster. Get something with some retention built in, it's just so embarrassing to lose control of your weapon. I'll never forget being in a scuffle, and watching my gunner haul ass to from cover to cover with a 240b in his hands, and his m9 dragging in the dirt behind him on a lanyard.
This (and the previous debate here) is again why I (personally) believe the DA/SA to be THE superior pistol action type.
It literally solves every single problem/tradeoff debated here and on every other gun forum ad infinitum lol.
I carry round chambered, double action. No safeties, no condition angst, no stupid little trigger paddles that actually don't perform a single damn safety function, no squishy long pull 7.5lb weight triggers that are always in a crappy 'middle-ground'.
My first trigger pull is like 12 pounds.. there's no damn way it's going off unless I mean it to. Then all subsequent shots are like 4 lbs... light, short, and smooth as butter for accuracy. Ever wanna change between 12lbs and 4lbs? Press button/lever. Done.
I will never understand why more people don't get it/demand more ACTUAL options/diversity from these manufacturers. I think it's really just a mix of ignorance and crowd mentality... the few brands that have ever done DA/SA that weren't revolvers have been high-end European (Sig & Walther) or value-end foreign (Bersa & Canik) manufacturers.. and only half of those ever offering a hammerless or poly-framed option. I think most people truly don't understand that just because the American military or police never GI'd it doesn't mean it's inferior... in fact, many times just the opposite.
But until then I guess we are just stuck with 5,678 different flavours of Glock 19.. 4,965 flavours of 1911, and the never ending bickering back and forth over which one sucks a little less than the other haha
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Although adopted by the US military the CZ75 platform has two weights of trigger pull.
So does the Colt New Service revolver platform.
The overwhelming advantage of the Glock platform is if you had to train millions of Wehrmacht boys like Gaston Glock and the Red Army and American and British and French armies were overrunning your concentration camps and liberating all the nations you conquered and you were afraid of Nuremberg coming to you, then it’s simple to hand all the Gastons a Glock and say
Here’s how to load it
Point it at the Allies
And shoot until it runs dry
Reload and keep shooting
Or you could hunt down one of those "Clam-shell" type police holsters that were popular for a while, that wouldn't let the gun out until you put your finger through the trigger-guard in order to push on the release button, allowing the front side of the holster to flap down on its hinges leaving the revolver in your hand (you did grab hold of the grip before pushing the button, didn't you?).