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Briar Lee

Lifer
Sep 4, 2021
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Humansville Missouri
Sorry man, I’m missing the point.

Whatever is meant by 1911s being generic doesn’t have much to do with whether law enforcement carries them?

But I don’t see 1911s as generic, swappable and so forth - to me not the same as the point that was originally being made about Glocks. Apples and oranges, IMHO.

Everybody and his brother makes a 1911 and there’s a huge aftermarket.

But it’s a hand fitted forged steel design.

It must not be that hard to make one or we’d not see $350 new 1911s.:)

And a $3,500 custom 1911 is a wonderful piece of jewelry that shoots 45 ACP rounds, and worth the money.

But a 1911 is now in the public domain.

The whole problem, is to sell the 1911 in a market overflowing with cheap 1911s.

Gaston Glock, paid (legal) bribes, hired strippers (hookers), filed lawsuits, set up shell corporations, no telling what all shady stuff he did to sell one million Glocks a year in the USA alone. The old Nazi veteran died with a wife young enough to be his granddaughter. Living large like that costs money.

If old Gaston made one for $75 then the others might make one for $50.

A Glock is a Glock.

There’s no Gold Cup National Match grade Glocks, it’s a plastic and CNC milled tool.

A hammer that shoots.
 
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HawkeyeLinus

Lifer
Oct 16, 2020
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Everybody and his brother makes a 1911 and there’s a huge aftermarket.

But it’s a hand fitted forged steel design.

It must not be that hard to make one or we’d not see $350 new 1911s.:)

And a $3,500 custom 1911 is a wonderful piece of jewelry that shoots 45 ACP rounds, and worth the money.

Gaston Glock, paid bribes, hired hookers, filed lawsuits, set up shell corporations, no telling what all shady stuff he did to sell one million Glocks a year in the USA alone.

If old Gaston made one for $75 then the others might make one for $50.

A Glock is a Glock.

There’s no Gold Cup National Match grade Glocks, it’s a plastic and CNC milled tool.

A hammer that shoots.
So they aren't as generic? ;)
 
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Richmond B. Funkenhouser

Plebeian Supertaster
Dec 6, 2019
5,412
24,630
Dixieland
My two Ruger Flattop 44 Special Blackhawks are “heir proof”.

I love my boys, and if you shoot enough 44 Skeeter loads you can occasionally duplicate Elmer Keith in front of your kids.

No gradson or granddaughter of mine yet unborn will drop my Number 5 clones and shoot themselves.

And when they research Bill Ruger, they won’t be ashamed to own them, either.


Ruger still builds firearms for responsible citizens, in factories in the United States of America

And they’ll go well with my No. 1

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This ad still sells Rugers, a half century later

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Bill Ruger was a shithead....

We had to wait until he died to get Ruger made 25 round 10/22 magazines, because Bill Ruger hated the Second Amendment.
 

MortarMessiah

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Jan 1, 2025
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We live in the Golden Age of firearms, there are so many options now, and a lot of options similar to the trusty Glock. I was raised on Glocks and even though I really enjoy a lot of other pistols, I still prefer the Glock. Give me a Glock 19 all day everyday. Cant go wrong.
 

sardonicus87

Lifer
Jun 28, 2022
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I've always hated the Glock platform and how it feels. I've never liked any that I have tried.

That said, I only skimmed the thread but Ruger is capable of making a decent firearm. I've got an ≈$200 Ruger Security 9 that fires way too well and consistently for a $200 piece.

As to 1911's, I really like that platform for .45, but I don't like it for carry. There's certainly many variations on the 1911, I have one by Remington (R1S I think), it's not the best 1911 I've ever fired, but it's not the worst either... but it was free.

Regardless, Ruger can make a good firearm, and Glocks are overrated. Hell, the 1911 platform is borderline overrated too, but at least that platform doesn't suck (unlike the Glock, which nobody can ever change my mind on, all of them are trash).
 

MortarMessiah

Might Stick Around
Jan 1, 2025
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371
Florida
I've always hated the Glock platform and how it feels. I've never liked any that I have tried.

That said, I only skimmed the thread but Ruger is capable of making a decent firearm. I've got an ≈$200 Ruger Security 9 that fires way too well and consistently for a $200 piece.

As to 1911's, I really like that platform for .45, but I don't like it for carry. There's certainly many variations on the 1911, I have one by Remington (R1S I think), it's not the best 1911 I've ever fired, but it's not the worst either... but it was free.

Regardless, Ruger can make a good firearm, and Glocks are overrated. Hell, the 1911 platform is borderline overrated too, but at least that platform doesn't suck (unlike the Glock, which nobody can ever change my mind on, all of them are trash).
Disagree with ya buddy. But everybody got their opinion.
 
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wyfbane

Lifer
Apr 26, 2013
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We live in the Golden Age of firearms, there are so many options now, and a lot of options similar to the trusty Glock. I was raised on Glocks and even though I really enjoy a lot of other pistols, I still prefer the Glock. Give me a Glock 19 all day everyday. Cant go wrong.
Yeah, but it's the housing bubble of ammo prices, so my giddiness is waaay muted. Lol

I like Ruger. 1000 blessings on them for bringing back the Marlin1895 in 45-70 ( and improving it). And, like Van, I have a Ruger No. 1. Mine is in 25.06, and is a smooth operator. I have Glocks, but prefer Sigs anyway, so a Ruger knockoff is fine with me.

One of my favorite pistols is my Norinco 1911. That damn thing shoots so well. I have always loved the 1911. In the 1911 vs 9mm debate, I would pick the 1911, if the mag capacities are the same. The 15 shot mags, make for a compelling argument for the 9mm, though.
 

Kilgore Trout

Part of the Furniture Now
Nov 5, 2019
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Four Rugers in my bag (LCP, SP101, MkII, Singe-Six). With a little polishing work, they shoot pretty well at their price point
Four here as well. SP101, Security Six, American Rimfire, and a Mini 14 GB. As far as 1911s are concerned I have a Remington R1s, and say what you will about Remington, this thing is a tack driver. My only complaint is that it's an original design so there's no beavertail, so I get hammer bite from it. One of these days I'm going to get a beavertail installed.