The McClelland closing? Worst kept secret in the pipe community. I knew about it 5, 6 months before the announcement. I'd get emails about it. I only bought a few things as I was at the tail end of buying, but I did stock up on the 40th. Having advance information on when and where it would ship was a big help.There was some speculation, but it was pretty much kept underwraps until the end. And the few people who actually did know weren't talking. It just started disappearing from vendors inventories. But it took several months before it was all sold out. They didn't want a frenzy over product by announcing ahead of time the shutdown.