Dunhill

[craiginthecorn]

I have quite a few Dunhill pipes. Apart from one 1927 Shell Briar, none are remarkable smokers. All are good, but not really what I would call special. The main reason I have these pipes in my collection is that Dunhill pipes are extremely handsome renditions of classic English shapes.

Remember, Dunhill has always been a luxury goods manufacturer, which means that they market to folks who are not too concerned about overpaying for something they want. They carry a price premium. That's why I never buy them at MSRP. I just bought two at the annual Iwan Ries Dunhill Trunk Show at 25% off.

BTW, White Spot retailers in the USA are not allowed to advertise a price below MSRP, but are allowed to sell them for less. So, Iwan Ries regularly will give you a discount if asked. Smokingpipes offers a fixed percentage off Dunhill pipes to at least some of their customers. My silver VIP level gets me 15% off. To save a good bit more, buy from Al Pasciá in Italy. For example, the 2018 Christmas pipe is $1950 after my discount at Smokingpipes. At Al Pascià, it's $1698.

 

[BROBS]

So it’s only $1400 overpriced......

 

[craiginthecorn]

very true.. a smart businessman but a tobacconist naught.

Actually, Dunhill was one hell of a tobacconist until about 1980.

So it’s only $1400 overpriced......

I wouldn't go that far, but I have had a number of opportunities to buy Dunhill Christmas pipes at 50% off. I still don't own one.

 

[jpmcwjr]

So it’s only $1400 overpriced......

Not a bit.

"The value of a thing is the price it will bring."

And very much diff strokes, diff folks. But I value each person's druthers wrt how much he might spend on x, y, or z. And my $ 12.00 basket pipe from 1969 smokes as well as any of my Charatans, Dunhills, Barnes, etc. Etc. The difference is aesthetics, and inflation over the last 50 years.

 

[saltedplug]

I think such discussions, in this case about Dunhill, founder because:

"Waaaiiit a second there is a Ferrari worth it? It does the Ferrari thing"

the Ferrari or Dunhill "thing" is not defined. That is, though I think you may know what you mean, you don't tell us what you mean. Without knowing this, we have no way to support or criticize your position.

 

[ron123]

If you have held and seen a Dunhill pipe in person, and do not see anything that sets it apart, then you absolutely should not buy them. Same for Castello, Stanwell, Grabow and anything else that isn't a cob. Egalitarianism all the way, baby LOL

 

[brian64]

the Ferrari or Dunhill "thing" is not defined. That is, though I think you may know what you mean, you don't tell us what you mean. Without knowing this, we have no way to support or criticize your position.

 

[saltedplug]

Hi Brian, Yes the Absolute is beyond any definition. We can be accurate in speaking about Him saying what He is not much more than the way He is. We don't apprehend His constant essence in everything due to our perception of the delusions of form, perception, ideation and consciousness, and these four grounded in the pervasive delusion of karma (Vasubandhu).The most powerful delusion is the "I", which maintains separation between ourselves and God (Nagarjuna). God Is, and He is Everything;' creation is not God but of Him. Creation is Nothing. (Meher Baba).

(That swami seems a tad tilted.)

 

[hauntedmyst]

PSA

Dunhills suck. There is no good reason to buy one. They are overpriced, vanity incarnate and only appeal to those easily manipulated by marketing schemes. It's especially important thing is to stay away from larger Estate Dunhills, specifically 6103 and 6101 in the smooth finishes. They are a blight on society in general and pipe smokers in particular. They have been known to cause ED in men and facial warts in women. If you see one in the wild, notify me immediately in a PM with a link to the website with such offender and I will dispatch my Dunhill disposal unit to contain them.

 

[brian64]

(That swami seems a tad tilted.)

 

[saltedplug]

Dunhills suck. There is no good reason to buy one. They are overpriced, vanity incarnate and only appeal to those easily manipulated by marketing schemes. It's especially important thing is to stay away from larger Estate Dunhills, specifically 6103 and 6101 in the smooth finishes. They are a blight on society in general and pipe smokers in particular. They have been known to cause ED in men and facial warts in women. If you see one in the wild, notify me immediately in a PM with a link to the website with such offender and I will dispatch my Dunhill disposal unit to contain them.

Now this is a man who knows his Dunhills! A veritable mountain of such experience! Righty-O!

BTW.I have several 6103s and 6101s and never smoke them. But I would never sell them as they remind me of the English gentry in those funny red coats and helmet hats setting forth with a dozen hounds to tear a fox to pieces.

Such fond memories. . .

 

[unadoptedlamp]

I love these "Dunhill" threads! Poor people ragging about how they can't afford them and so mocking those who can. At least, that is what is between the lines. Sorry about your luck fellas... you should have studied harder for a good job! Ha!

I don't understand the difference between a Dunhill and any other premium "artisan" pipe. And I have both! I hold them in my hand, and what I see are well made, beautiful pipes! What else is there to a pipe? You're simply overthinking it all.

Is the romanticism of an "artisan" pipe maker toiling away in their shed "worth it"?

Do they have access to unicorn horn tipped drilling bits that imbue a certain je ne sais quoi?

Are they less likely to be crosseyed than the poor sod behind the whip at the Dunhill "factory"?

What is the Dunhill "factory" anyway? Row upon row of workbenches lubricated with the tears from 8 year old boys farmed out for work? The bloody English, I'd not be surprised...

What people are talking about here is simply their financial status. You're a dumb asshole if you have the nerve to buy a new Dunhill! How could you?!? (Damn, I wish I could blow through stacks of cash like that)

But so called "artisan" pipes for the same or higher price appear to get a pass. Well, I have both, and I can say with absolute certainty that there is no difference. But, of course, I'm one of those dumb assholes and my "artisan" pipes are not true "artisan" pipes.

Anyone ever notice how many "artisan" pipes magically hit a similar price point? That's very weird, isn't it?
Unless you pick up an "artisan" pipe from a Chinese pipe maker (which I have) -fuck the Chinese, am I right?- and they are suddenly marginally less expensive than many American, Danish, or Italian counterparts. But that's just Chinese Junk! Yeah... ok.

Better to apply the thought and effort in these threads toward studying for an occupation that sufficiently pads your account so that you need not concern yourself with the price tags of trinkets like this. It is far more productive if you're dumb and poor.

 

[jpmcwjr]

Well, this thread proves there's real passion on all sides of this discussion.

 

[unadoptedlamp]

Jesus... before there is a dogpile here, I am only "taking the piss," as the English say.

I would have padded it with a heap of "emojis," but that's not my thing. Settle down fellas!

Although really, the whole "artisan" thing does have me baffled... especially price wise. And also, the notion of a "factory," in the pipe world, is something I think is ridiculous. I've been to real factories and my brain has conjured an image of what a "factory" should be. In the pipe world? More like a small shop, even from the very biggest of producers.

I think it's worth talking about.

Oh, and Merry Christmas. Seriously, if you're offended, I was only rattling your cage.

 

[weezell]

Oh, and Merry Christmas. Seriously, if you're offended, I was only rattling your cage.

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[Chasing Embers]

You're simply overthinking it all.

Not really. I can afford any pipe I set my eye on. I've owned three Dunhills, two of which were bone straight, and none of the three could pass a pipe cleaner. Quality control is my issue with Dunhill. I've yet to buy an artisan piece of any shape that has issues passing a pipe cleaner.

 

[hauntedmyst]

Not really. I can afford any pipe I set my eye on. I've owned three Dunhills, two of which were bone straight, and none of the three could pass a pipe cleaner. Quality control is my issue with Dunhill. I've yet to buy an artisan piece of any shape that has issues passing a pipe cleaner.

Just curious why you would buy pipes that wouldn't pass a pipe cleaner?

 

[Chasing Embers]

Just curious why you would buy pipes that wouldn't pass a pipe cleaner?

Online buys.

 

[hauntedmyst]

Online buys.

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ah. I had the same issue with an artisan pipe. I should have checked it when I bought it but didn't until it was to late.

 

[Chasing Embers]

I

ah. I had the same issue with an artisan pipe. I should have checked it when I bought it but didn't until it was to late.

I should have had the sense to ask for a pipe cleaner test before ordering.