Dunhill
- Thread starter sparrowhawk
- Start date
- Status
Buying competitors brands,
copying of other makers unpatented inventions and slightly changing and patenting them.
Besides that for A. Dunhill it was never about making/loving pipes, but only about money.
And there are many opposite examples of high end pipe makers.
Fair enough, but what if you are given the choice between two products from the same price segment?
Considering my past choices in wives, I'd say that I would select the one that's most unstable and bat-shit crazy.
Don't give up hope. I bought one of my Dunhills from a member on the site here. It had been repaired and I only paid $60 for it. It smokes great and I think I can tell where the repair is but not really. To the average person you'd never know it had been repaired. In fact, if I wasn't told I'd likely never know.
This is a rather dark commentary, but I wonder if Lord Alfred's indifference to pipes themselves helped him make cold business decisions that made their elevated prices successful. I think all of the English makers appropriated a lot of the French shapes and made them seem English, along with the French use of briar in the first place. I like my English pipes a lot -- Britannia, Parker, Ferndown (which I'm smoking at the moment).
The opposite to Dunhill were Frederic and Rueben Charatan, who it seems to me, had a passion for pipes.
Another good example is Giancarlo Guidi.
It will happen when you least expect it! Also living in hope.
I like the Dunhills I have very much, and they smoke as well as anything else. Not better, not worse.
I like the Dunhills I have very much, and they smoke as well as anything else. Not better, not worse.
See reply interspersed, in italics.
Yes, there are. But I don't see you've cited any chicanery involved in marketing and promotion. He was very good at both.
Yes, there are. But I don't see you've cited any chicanery involved in marketing and promotion. He was very good at both.
His main marketing gimmick was this newfangled thing called the automobile and accessories for that and the “motoring elite”. It’s always wanted to be seen as a luxury or elite brand and in the late 20th/21st century that means raising the price. Look at ST DuPont products or Davidoff... same thing.
Yes, all in the same boat, but such started in the 19th C, or early 20th. I don't see what's wrong with creating cachet and selling at a premium. None of us are forced to buy same.
If you are lucky you can find them in the weirdest places. How about mine I found in a basket. $15.50. Good thing I have done research on dunhill. Yeah so it’s a side company they started but the quality is all dunhill.
I have about a dozen Dunhill pipes. They smoke just as well and are about the same quality as my other British machine made pipes.
Dunhills carry a hefty price premium for vanity in my opinion.
Given the fact I could buy an awfully nice artisan pipe for an equal or lesser amount of cash, I would fall on the side of artisan.
But if you have to have a Dunhill, then by all means...
Dunhills carry a hefty price premium for vanity in my opinion.
Given the fact I could buy an awfully nice artisan pipe for an equal or lesser amount of cash, I would fall on the side of artisan.
But if you have to have a Dunhill, then by all means...
Are they Savory or Savory’s Argyll?
Two different companies. If it doesn’t have the “ ‘s” and Argyll stamp it’s not a Dunhill.
Argyll is the pipe model. Savory’s is the company. There is a pipe called the Savory Semi-matte. Same company, different model pipe. But yes the ones I have are all sandblast Argyll. Half had inner-tubes.
and I agree with Craig that Dunhill is all hype.
and I agree with Craig that Dunhill is all hype.
- Status