Cornell & DIehl Small Batch - "The Beast"

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I picked up a tin of The Beast today at the show. I'm home now and enjoying a bowl as I type. It lives up to it's name for sure, as it's a strong blend. I like perique and it is front and center like I've really never had it before. It's salt and pepper out of the gate, the cavendish keeps it soft and buttery, and the rum topping takes on a plum wine taste to me when smoked. Wow! I wish I had picked up an extra tin. I'll certainly enjoy the one I have, and will be smoking it after dinners and late night snacks over the next few weeks. I did however pick up two tins of Smokers Haven Best Blend. It's a totally different blend, but excellent in it's own right. These two tobaccos were the highlights of the show for me today, but The Beast is kicking my ass right now. It is a great and very unique blend!

 

deathmetal

Lifer
Jul 21, 2015
7,714
35
You had to be fast on the trigger, and sitting in front of a computer ready to go, to catch this one. I hope you get to try it at some point; I think it might be something you would enjoy.

 

newbroom

Lifer
Jul 11, 2014
6,370
9,865
North Central Florida
mctinner1, I got the same message. I opted for a return of credit on the two tins I'd ordered. I had noticed that they listed their stock in red numbers preceded by a minus sign.

By the time I completed my order, it was -27...so, I had little real hope to claim a can of the beast.

I still placed an order, though, 2 more pounds of blending tobacco that came to enough to circumvent the shipping costs.

Lemonade.

 

budrichard

Lurker
Jul 9, 2015
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Picked up a tin at the Chicago Show yesterday.

C&D had quite a few, no panic buying.

Also picked up a tin of Bijou, Tin says "Estimated Peak 10-15 Years".

I'll report back in 15 years!

I had previously purchased 8oz of 'Crooner' and liked the blend so much,

I thought I would give some of the other C&D tobacco blends a try.-Richard

BTW 'Crooner' gives a nicotine rush in a few seconds.



 

bigpond

Lifer
Oct 14, 2014
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14
Oh lord, the Arcadian Perique argument got started on page one, I believe this akin to the Absinthe/thujone levels argument. Anyone want to expand on the Arcadian vs St James perique. I was under the impression that all perique came from St James Parish. C&D has been on record saying this. Cosmic, can you elaborate on this?
Here's the deal. Basically all perique used in pipe tobacco is Acadian Perique made in ST James Parish. What's the difference? Who cares? You can't get SJP. It's pretty much that simple. The annoying detail is many blends claim to use SJP. But they do not. The only way to be reasonably certain is chat with Mark Ryan.
Unless things have changed recently, only Russ Ouellette has any SJP earmarked for pipe blends. And you can't buy it yet. PS they do list SJP as bulk for sale. If you ask them about it you will be told its the real deal (at least I was). It isn't.
Edit: about this blend...first the beard blend now the ?777? sign of the beast blend?...what's next the dutch oven, the dirty sanchez....?

 

deathmetal

Lifer
Jul 21, 2015
7,714
35
Unless things have changed recently, only Russ Ouellette has any SJP earmarked for pipe blends. And you can't buy it yet.
Whatever Perique is in The Beast seems pretty tasty to me. As I understand it, outside of terroir, Perique is a technique and so should produce similar results elsewhere from St. James Parish as well.

 

leacha

Part of the Furniture Now
Jun 19, 2013
939
8
Colorado
Unless things have changed recently, only Russ Ouellette has any SJP earmarked for pipe blends.

Why would that be? Does he an agreement with Ryan and every small producer?

 

username

Lifer
Dec 24, 2014
2,253
15,553
Tucson Az
From the link Deathmetal posted
PipesMagazine.com: Now, tell us about Perique as far as being used in blending and in smoking, because I’ve heard that you don’t normally smoke Perique by itself. I’ve heard that it’s used more like a condiment for using with other tobaccos and blending. Is that correct?
Ryan: That’s right. Perique is used as a blending ingredient, like Latakia. It’s got a lot of character, a lot of richness, and it adds a lot to a blend, but too much can dominate to an extent that you don’t want that in there, just like with the Latakia. Some folks want straight Perique, but it’s not something the average person’s going to want, so it’s usually used in a blend, most commonly with Virginia. It’s a natural blend with Virginia. They compliment one another well. It makes the Virginia more smokable, cuts back on some of that cottony dryness you get in the back of your throat from Virginia, and it’s so much flavor. The flavors that you get out of the Perique are unbelievable. I mean, you’ve got that fermentation sort of fruity component, you’ve got an olive component, you got like a fine nut component, you got layer and layer of flavor from Perique. And we have both types. The one that most folks get is the blend, which is called Acadian Perique, and then the Straight St. James, which doesn’t sell as much, and we have that also.
PipesMagazine.com: The Straight St. James, that’s the 100%?
Ryan: That’s 100% St. James. What the guys discovered in the first half of the last century was that if you have a bad season, you lose 100% of the Perique and there’s none for anybody. And then the manufacturers phase it out.
So yes Acadian is St James perique it has just been cut with green river burley its not 100% st james.

Seems to me like blended malt whiskey vs single malt whiskey but thats just my take on it.

 

jefff

Lifer
May 28, 2015
1,915
6
Chicago
I would be interested in a smoking comparison. Is there a noticeable difference between the two. From the same year.

 

Chasing Embers

Captain of the Black Frigate
Nov 12, 2014
44,915
117,173
BTW 'Crooner' gives a nicotine rush in a few seconds.
Smoke this one quite regularly, and always considered it a bit mild in the nicotine department.

 

leacha

Part of the Furniture Now
Jun 19, 2013
939
8
Colorado
From the link Deathmetal posted
PipesMagazine.com: Now, tell us about Perique as far as being used in blending and in smoking, because I’ve heard that you don’t normally smoke Perique by itself. I’ve heard that it’s used more like a condiment for using with other tobaccos and blending. Is that correct?

Ryan: That’s right. Perique is used as a blending ingredient, like Latakia. It’s got a lot of character, a lot of richness, and it adds a lot to a blend, but too much can dominate to an extent that you don’t want that in there, just like with the Latakia. Some folks want straight Perique, but it’s not something the average person’s going to want, so it’s usually used in a blend, most commonly with Virginia. It’s a natural blend with Virginia. They compliment one another well. It makes the Virginia more smokable, cuts back on some of that cottony dryness you get in the back of your throat from Virginia, and it’s so much flavor. The flavors that you get out of the Perique are unbelievable. I mean, you’ve got that fermentation sort of fruity component, you’ve got an olive component, you got like a fine nut component, you got layer and layer of flavor from Perique. And we have both types. The one that most folks get is the blend, which is called Acadian Perique, and then the Straight St. James, which doesn’t sell as much, and we have that also.
PipesMagazine.com: The Straight St. James, that’s the 100%?
Ryan: That’s 100% St. James. What the guys discovered in the first half of the last century was that if you have a bad season, you lose 100% of the Perique and there’s none for anybody. And then the manufacturers phase it out.
So yes Acadian is St James perique it has just been cut with green river burley its not 100% st james.

Seems to me like blended malt whiskey vs single malt whiskey but thats just my take on it.
The article is from Jan. 2010 that was researched in '09. A lot has and can change in 6+ years.

 

leacha

Part of the Furniture Now
Jun 19, 2013
939
8
Colorado
I can only speculate. I'm assuming production has increased to meet demand and some blenders are using SJP and Russ doesn't have a monopoly.

 

perdurabo

Lifer
Jun 3, 2015
3,305
1,581
Acadian Perique gets bashed, some fool thinks he's got the real deal. Because we consume so much perique, it has to be blended like a wine or whiskey. Gawith may have a batch of 100%, it may be vintage. I need to crack that Cabbies Mixture and find out if there is a difference.

 

deathmetal

Lifer
Jul 21, 2015
7,714
35
Rumor has it that most "Perique" is just microwave-dried sauerkraut mixed with Green River Burley.

 

deathmetal

Lifer
Jul 21, 2015
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Loved this write-up:

http://www.cornellanddiehl.com/the-latest-details.cfm?id=44
Reviews here:

http://pipesmagazine.com/forums/topic/cornell-amp-diehl-the-beast-small-batch

 
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