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craig61a

Lifer
Apr 29, 2017
6,164
52,948
Minnesota USA
Midnight drops are pointless, but if we all play along with it then it will continue. I also think it’s a kiddy marketing technique. It sucks seeing pipe tobacco become like craft beer. The un-trendiness of piping is one of its appeals to me but C&D I guess feels obligated to modernize things. The people who are setting alarms to get this are in my mind analogous to those who stand in line/putting down lawn chairs to hold spots in line for limited beer releases from the local craft brewery…well almost as bad.
 

Egg Shen

Lifer
Nov 26, 2021
1,187
3,960
Pennsylvania
Please help me understand why any of that is a bad thing? Seems to me a company creating excitement and enthusiasm for their product is a good thing. The product most often being excellent enough to warrant standing in line for seems like a good thing. And for those who don't wish to "stand in line", there's a large, diverse lineup of standard products that are readily available to choose from.

What am I missing?
I wasn’t saying it’s bad, certainly not for C+D. It’s just some Instagram generation bullshit. I would have thought your average pipe smoker with brick $ is above that age. And I totally agree with the plethora of satisfactory readily available products negates the need to obtain this - thus making the midnight drop pointless- I’m not staying up late to get a tobacco when there’s hundred of other good blends that don’t require hijacking my circadian rhythms to acquire them.
 

Egg Shen

Lifer
Nov 26, 2021
1,187
3,960
Pennsylvania
New releases of many products have been released at the beginning of their release date for decades. Albums, video releases starting with cassettes all the way through digital downloads, video games, books, etc.
Well I guess if you feel the traditions of other industries must be maintained….I have no counter argument
 

Egg Shen

Lifer
Nov 26, 2021
1,187
3,960
Pennsylvania
Seems like if pipe smoking has been given a trendy name like "piping", it's lost its un-trendiness. There's more than just a handful of people smoking pipes to buy thousands of pounds of tobacco and low to high grade pipes to keep multiple online stores and B&Ms in business. The number of us on online forums is just a drop in the bucket compared to the total.
Just my word to make typing shorter. Sorry if it sucks.
 
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Well I guess if you feel the traditions of other industries must be maintained….I have no counter argument
You don't have to justify your feelings to everyone on here. We can silently seethe our disappointment in the comfort of our home. puffy


It's always a good thing to keep in mind that some folks just don't give a shit. If it really bothers you, write an email to the company.
Me, I just enjoy seething publicly. it's ok, as long as you keep it entertaining. puffy
 

Egg Shen

Lifer
Nov 26, 2021
1,187
3,960
Pennsylvania
You don't have to justify your feelings to everyone on here. We can silently seethe our disappointment in the comfort of our home. puffy
I’m only very mildly bummed
It's always a good thing to keep in mind that some folks just don't give a shit. If it really bothers you, write an email to the company.
Me, I just enjoy seething publicly. it's ok, as long as you keep it entertaining. puffy
I like driving the discussion; I find it amusing. Also, I am opining and I expect others to differ on the topic. I like it when there are multiple viewpoints; otherwise it’s just a one-sided discussion. I’m not looking to create heated arguments or for people to be “seriously “ upset.
 

AlanH

Part of the Furniture Now
Nov 29, 2021
667
4,051
North Alabama
Please help me understand why any of that is a bad thing? Seems to me a company creating excitement and enthusiasm for their product is a good thing. The product most often being excellent enough to warrant standing in line for seems like a good thing. And for those who don't wish to "stand in line", there's a large, diverse lineup of standard products that are readily available to choose from.

What am I missing?
I agree I think C&D are helping the hobby grow. Creating demand and appreciation for an already fine product. It is is in the interest of the hobby to grow. Same thing happened with Great Eastern Cutlery (tradition slip joint knives I will call them codger blades ? ) once their knives set around for a months on webstores now when they drop a new production run they sell out in seconds. All that has done is cause the value of my knives to go way up. Also C&D and GEC could very legitimately raise the price way up where it sat around a few days and make more money good on them for not. Yeah it stinks when you miss out (I have not been able to get GEC knives like I would like) but I am glad that the slip joint has come back and I think GEC has been the cause. Before GEC there where only Three companies making Slip joints in the USA (Case. Bear, and Buck) 50 years ago there where hundreds Queen stopped last. Maybe C&D can help the hobby grow in the same way.
 
I agree I think C&D are helping the hobby grow. Creating demand and appreciation for an already fine product.
It's not impossible to feel the same appreciation, and also pissed at the midnight drop time. puffy

The weird thing about this forum is that when you post that you don't like one little thing, people assume that you are a hater of the whole company. Like if someone gets a misdrilled Peteerson, people are like, "don't hate Petersons.
Or, if you don't like aromatics, "stop hating Sutliff."

It's crazy.

On the other hand, I think it is weird for someone to be so devout a fan of a company, that everything that company does is worthy of devotion.
 
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AlanH

Part of the Furniture Now
Nov 29, 2021
667
4,051
North Alabama
It's not impossible to feel the same appreciation, and also pissed at the midnight drop time. puffy

The weird thing about this forum is that when you post that you don't like one little thing, people assume that you are a hater of the whole company. Like if someone gets a misdrilled Peteerson, people are like, "don't hate Petersons.
Or, if you don't like aromatics, "stop hating Sutliff."

It's crazy.

On the other hand, I think it is weird for someone to be so devout a fan of a company, that everything that company does is worthy of devotion.
Ha ha true. Fanboyism vs Haters often times very little critical thinking in either approach. I also think it is funny when people get mad at resellers for jacking the price up but that is another story. The expensive secondary market in some ways creates the brand.
 
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krizzose

Lifer
Feb 13, 2013
3,384
21,170
Michigan
Midnight drops are pointless, but if we all play along with it then it will continue. I also think it’s a kiddy marketing technique. It sucks seeing pipe tobacco become like craft beer. The un-trendiness of piping is one of its appeals to me but C&D I guess feels obligated to modernize things. The people who are setting alarms to get this are in my mind analogous to those who stand in line/putting down lawn chairs to hold spots in line for limited beer releases from the local craft brewery…well almost as bad.

Sorry not sorry. It took me all of five minutes to make the order and fall back asleep. Comparing that to lining up for hours for something is simply absurd.
My point was that it’s not difficult at all to get in on these limited releases.
 
My point was that it’s not difficult at all to get in on these limited releases.
I wish they had of just charged more, like $400 a pop. It is easier for me to pay more for exclusivity than to wake up at f'n midnight. Maybe it would have culled some of these wippersnappers that stay up so late.
 
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Egg Shen

Lifer
Nov 26, 2021
1,187
3,960
Pennsylvania
Sorry not sorry. It took me all of five minutes to make the order and fall back asleep. Comparing that to lining up for hours for something is simply absurd.
My point was that it’s not difficult at all to get in on these limited releases.
I know, which is why I said “almost”. You are still feeding the hype machine and whilst a peeve of mine, you are free to feed it. Also, I am sure some purchasers made no adjustments to their bedtime to get this. We all have different lines in the sand. I agree that the midnight vultures are not on the same level as some guy pissing away 4 hours of his Saturday to obtain the latest Tired Hands beer. Perhaps not the best comparison on my part, but it was the first example of folks getting overly spun up on hype that came to mind.
 
Isn’t that just a change to shift barrier to entry off you and onto someone else? Strange position.


I'm not sure what you mean, but this is an even stranger position. puffy
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HawkeyeLinus

Lifer
Oct 16, 2020
5,868
42,296
Iowa
Please help me understand why any of that is a bad thing? Seems to me a company creating excitement and enthusiasm for their product is a good thing. The product most often being excellent enough to warrant standing in line for seems like a good thing. And for those who don't wish to "stand in line", there's a large, diverse lineup of standard products that are readily available to choose from.

What am I missing?

Nothing!
 
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