C&D From Beyond

[cosmicfolklore]

I just find it annoying when a blend can't stand on its own merits and has to be touted as an attempt at a match of something else.

I'm not sure that annoys me. It just makes me wonder why they bother. I'd always much rather a blender try to create a new genre, give us some new tastes to explore. This excites me more than, "let me see if I am such a great blender, that I can copy what someone else did." But, it doesn't annoy me. The shit sells, so... maybe they're on to something...

 

[Chasing Embers]

Funny how bulk packaging of the same blends don't sell nearly as well without the mythological blurb and alluring tin art.

When given the option, I always go with bulk.

 

[Chasing Embers]

I'm not sure that annoys me. It just makes me wonder why they bother. I'd always much rather a blender try to create a new genre, give us some new tastes to explore. This excites me more than, "let me see if I am such a great blender, that I can copy what someone else did." But, it doesn't annoy me. The shit sells, so... maybe they're on to something...

If they start cranking out Oriental only blends, I'll be all over it but alot of the recent new blends are just too similar to everything else out there.

 

[perdurabo]

Brilliant insights there buddy.

I do not agree with @Keitha on the issue of hype and consumerism in tobacco, but at least he sees the relevance of the question and expressed a cohesive position on the matter.

Brilliant insights there buddy.

I do not agree with @Keitha on the issue of hype and consumerism in tobacco, but at least he sees the relevance of the question and expressed a cohesive position on the matter.

I wasn’t offering insight, if that’s what you want, I offer samatha/vipassanna.

 

[perdurabo]

We should be happy to see any new blends coming out... even if we don't think we'd like them.
I don't understand people being against pipe tobacco companies marketing to them. Let them market... make their pitch. You always have the choice to either buy it and try it, or keep walking. Is the Lovacraftian series stirring inner conflicts? Conflicting emotions? awakening the inner monster? madness?! Muah ha ha!!

My only quelm was whether it was a re-release. Plus, wondering what makes the Lavecraftian blends a series... but, hell, it's their series to begin with. They can call it whatever they want.

I agree with you 100 percent. I would’ve like the title of the tin to be Night Crap, personally.

 

[spicy_boiii]

If they start cranking out Oriental only blends, I'll be all over it but alot of the recent new blends are just too similar to everything else out there.

Agree. Much gets said about Burley being taken more seriously by C&D and others, as opposed to just a component or a base for flavoring.

Would be nice to see more Oriental dominant blends without latakia.

 

[perdurabo]

Agree. Much gets said about Burley being taken more seriously by C&D and others, as opposed to just a component or a base for flavoring.

Would be nice to see more Oriental dominant blends without latakia.

I'm not sure that annoys me. It just makes me wonder why they bother. I'd always much rather a blender try to create a new genre, give us some new tastes to explore. This excites me more than, "let me see if I am such a great blender, that I can copy what someone else did." But, it doesn't annoy me. The shit sells, so... maybe they're on to something...

I think we tend to lean toward Russ’s or Pease’s craftsmanship when it comes to these “impressions” than other blendmasters. Jeremy is trying his hand at it. I gave the man a shot and ordered 3 tins. I’ll age them and I’ll let you know what I think in 3 years. Damn, I don’t know what the hell NightCap tasted like in the 80’s, so dismiss my review.?

 

[lawdawg]

I wasn’t offering insight, if that’s what you want, I offer samatha/vipassanna.

Well at least we can agree on that.

I was unfamiliar with your Buddhist terminology, so I looked it up, and funny enough, “vipassanna” literally means “insight.”

Namaste away from you now

 

[cohibajoe]

A "tater" is one who has to have what the hot item is, well in the bourbon world. You classic tater thinks Blantons is the end all be all and will spend 3x retail just to have to say he has it.

I hear you and I can go into why these are the most Talked about in FB Bourbon Nation form..It's the Hype of Buffalo Trace Brand which was created by a movie "The Internship" to Truck Chasers, 2nd Market pricing and "I have it and you Don't"....We seen this in Tobacco when it was announced that McClelland was closing . So I don't by into Limited Edition Tobacco, Cigars and Booze (yet I do Buy certain Liquor) . 7yrs ago anyone could have walk into a liquor store and find Buffalo Trace as there stuff was easy accessed.

 

[That Guy]

That was fast! Once my taste buds are back to normal I'll have to break open a tin and give it a try.

 

[mingc]

I just ordered some From Beyond, Eight State Burley and Sun Bear Black Locust.

Oh, yeah.

MINGC IS OPEN FOR BIZNESS; COME ON IN AND SELL ME STUFF!!!

 

[hoosierpipeguy]

My experience with the small batch releases has mostly been very positive. In fact, almost no complete misses. FOMO? I don't know or care. If it turns out to be fabulous, you damn right I don't want to miss out. I never cease to be amazed how so many people waste their time worrying about how other people spend their own money.

I passed completely on From Beyond as it didn't sound like something i'd like.

 

[That Guy]

I passed completely on From Beyond as it didn't sound like something i'd like.

What got my interest was the supposed strength of this blend. I've been on a "strong tobacco" kick here lately I guess. Figured why not and if wasn't my thing I'm pretty sure I could get my money back.

 

[That Guy]

Had some free time before going into work this morning and decided to crack a tin open. My sense of smell and taste is probably back 70-80% since having covid but I'll do my best to describe this blend. After cracking it open I immediately got the smell of smokey Latakia as to be expected. After removing the paper disc and ruffling the tobacco alittle I started getting some pepper and spice. I opened up some jarred up blends that had similar components to compare on the sniff test and from beyond was actually on the milder side. After jarring it up and letting it sit for a couple days I'll compare again. As far as the moisture content it was pretty much ready to smoke out of the tin maybe only needing 5 minutes or so of drying time. Hopefully when I get a chance to light up a bowl I'll pick up on some flavors that I'm not able to smell at the moment. I'm mainly an English/Balkan/vaper smoker so im sure it will get smoked and enjoyed.

 

[hoosierpipeguy]

What got my interest was the supposed strength of this blend. I've been on a "strong tobacco" kick here lately I guess. Figured why not and if wasn't my thing I'm pretty sure I could get my money back.

I'm confident at worse you can recover your money. I'm just not a latakia fan.

 

[That Guy]

I'm just not a latakia fan.

Maybe it's because I was born and raised a Mississippi boy but I've been around smokey smells and taste it seems my whole life. Whether it was a wood burning fireplace in the winter, campfires/ bonfires, or some good ole Smoky bbq. Where I'm from just about every gas station has a big smoker outside and bbq joint attached and some great bbq. I remember my first Latakia blend was frog Morton original and I was hooked after that lol couldn't believe how good it was and then Balkan sobrante and others followed after that. If it's not your thing it's just not your thing lol

 

[wyfbane]

I just find it annoying when a blend can't stand on its own merits and has to be touted as an attempt at a match of something else.

In most cased, yes. But this is taking a shot at 80's night cap, not more recent productions. I think it made for a valid selling point, in this case.

For several years, I was a slave to FOMO. I came to the game late, was wow'd by huge cellers like Peck's, and worried about losing out to closures and deeming. I can't say it was in vain, as I likely have enough McClelland tobacco to last me 15 years at the rate I smoke, if not more. I also have a fair amount of G&H, SG, and Germains to last through the drought.

I agree with the idea that we need to just let the tobacco companies do what they can in this thing of ours. We are still a tiny niche market, so whatever makes those companies remain interested in catering to us is fine by me.

 

[mingc]

I just find it annoying when a blend can't stand on its own merits and has to be touted as an attempt at a match of something else.

The explicit matches are a service for folks whose blends have been discontinued, or competition if the matched blend still exists. I don't see anything wrong with either.

Even if the manufacturer doesn't make the expressed comparision, people are going to do it themselves anyways. Think of all the Balkan Sobranie wannabes, including Match BSOM and 759 or BlackHouse and WhiteKnight.

 

[cosmicfolklore]

The explicit matches are a service for folks whose blends have been discontinued, or competition if the matched blend still exists. I don't see anything wrong with either.

Even if the manufacturer doesn't make the expressed comparision, people are going to do it themselves anyways. Think of all the Balkan Sobranie wannabes, including Match BSOM and 759 or BlackHouse and WhiteKnight.

I think that matches also just sell :::period:::
It's sad, but I have seen this happen at The Briary all the time. If you tell someone, "This is unlike anything you've ever had. I'm sure you'll love it" They just look disinterested. But, if you tell them, "That is a lot like Escudo (or whatever)," they buy it.
It's ridiculous that men aren't every adventurous or imaginative, but companies are more likely to lay down some time and money on something more likely to sell than a risk.

 

[Chasing Embers]

But this is taking a shot at 80's night cap,

Like Balkan Sobranie, they're aiming at an unobtainable target. Even if they had a sample on hand to compare it to, the advanced age would have changed it so far beyond the blender's original intent as well as lack of components that may have been available then. A good blend can stand on it's own without need of lost blend comparison.