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That seat was needed for a Mr. A. Hitler. So out came his SS agents. Smack-down time.
Then have the media paint the victim as a nutjob and dig up his poor past history from 15 years ago. Great spin.
How clever the media is for all the sheeple. Vilify the victim to alter people opinions and divert away from what really happened. A guy said no, was face-slammed, then dragged out on his ass by goons "just follwoing orders."
Murica' ...yeah.
Then have the media paint the victim as a nutjob and dig up his poor past history from 15 years ago. Great spin.
How clever the media is for all the sheeple. Vilify the victim to alter people opinions and divert away from what really happened. A guy said no, was face-slammed, then dragged out on his ass by goons "just follwoing orders."
Murica' ...yeah.
I don't fly in airplanes. I fly in black helicopters and inhale chemtrails too.
It's really interesting how a guy who doesn't want to give up his seat is all of a sudden the "Rosa Parks" of the air and the government is lined with goon and removal squads just waiting to pounce on hapless travelers.
Wow. Just Wow.
It's really interesting how a guy who doesn't want to give up his seat is all of a sudden the "Rosa Parks" of the air and the government is lined with goon and removal squads just waiting to pounce on hapless travelers.
Wow. Just Wow.
Brace yourselves (see what I did there?) for some fresh intel.
Word on the ramp is that it wasn't United employees at all. Allegedly, it was a codeshare operator flying under the United colors- a codeshare's airplane, a codeshare's crew that needed to be repo'd, and a codeshare gate agent that made the call. The plot thickens, no?
Word on the ramp is that it wasn't United employees at all. Allegedly, it was a codeshare operator flying under the United colors- a codeshare's airplane, a codeshare's crew that needed to be repo'd, and a codeshare gate agent that made the call. The plot thickens, no?
Ash, that is a very exaggerated perspective. The guy was a goob, but the weirdness of a victim doesn't justify the actions of these few officers, and no these officers are not the norm. In my facebook feed full of my family and friends that are law enforcement officers, not one of them thinks these cops did a good job.
I think the humor of the incidence is United and their retarded policy, legal or not, contractual or not, it's stupid. The big dog billionaire CEOs are taking a PR gut punch. Why defend the people not doing a good job?
I'm sure that if you saw a fire investigator doing a lousy job, you'd be pissed too. I get pissed having to fix things that other jewelers mess up. And, I would be just as amazed if someone were defend a bad jeweler or anyone else not doing a good job.
And, I am pretty sure that a sandwich is a double decker pizza. Dammit! :
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I think the humor of the incidence is United and their retarded policy, legal or not, contractual or not, it's stupid. The big dog billionaire CEOs are taking a PR gut punch. Why defend the people not doing a good job?
I'm sure that if you saw a fire investigator doing a lousy job, you'd be pissed too. I get pissed having to fix things that other jewelers mess up. And, I would be just as amazed if someone were defend a bad jeweler or anyone else not doing a good job.
And, I am pretty sure that a sandwich is a double decker pizza. Dammit! :
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Cosmic, I'm not defending anyone. Plenty of blame to spread, but the knee-jerk reactions about the government are insane as well.
I didn't even see this a government thing at all, which made it kind of nice that everyone could rally around bashing this company, instead of there being a party line.
Cajun sees it different, T-NU is going to town in his wagon, T-Brad wants to go to town, ( He's out of Carter Hall) I ask T-NU as he slowly passes by Can I come to Town with you, It'll cost you he says, 1 chicken. I run to the chicken yard, grab a chicken and hop on, down the road, Mrs Alphone and her 6 children wave at T-NU can we come to town, now Mrs Alphone has been known to dispense her charms liberally, T-NU looks at me T-Brad you have to get off the wagon I got no mo room. Auugh I yell I gave you a chicken, he says I'll give you 2 chickens to get off. Monse La Marde I say, with dat he takes his whips and gives me a Sting dat I won't forget. As I walk the gravel road back to de farm, I can't forget the truth, IT WAS HIS WAGON. :rofl:
Jumping back aboard.
Whether you think this was all caused by a rather screwy and chance confluence of a nutty passenger (thank you Jesse) or totally the airlines fault, depends on your perspective. If you are rather accepting of today's decline in public civility as being "just the way things are now", then it was the passenger's fault for not just complying. End of story. But if you are less accepting of how things are today, kinda miss the good ol' days when everyone was kinder and gentler before "zero tolerance" was invented, then you will find in the passenger's favor.
That passenger could have been ANY ONE OF US---- make no mistake that given the right circumstances, anyone might on any given day question, challenge or even resist a sudden, arbitrary effort to take you off a flight you paid for, ARE ALREADY ON THE PLANE FOR, waiting to take off, and really, really needed to get to your destination ASAP.
Especially as this should have been done (and I understand usually is done) BEFORE people board the plane. There are other ways of getting four crew members across country. Hell, they could have chartered a private plane for far far less than they will spend now. The real problem here was that the airline put THEIR needs ahead of the customers they served! And fewer and fewer companies these days seem to really value and RESPECT their customers like they used to.
In the end make no mistake: changes have already come out of this event. This is BIG, it has gone global. That alone should tell you the airline was in the wrong. YOU JUST DON'T DO THAT TO A PASSENGER/CUSTOMER who was just minding his business waiting to take off. PERIOD.
Chances are good it will be a long time before anyone is ever beaten and dragged off a plane again. This goofball doctor guy has just all made our world a tiny bit better. And legalities or not, this guy is going to CLEAN UP. To those who quote legalities, remember, it was once legal to put blacks in the back of the bus and legal to chop your head off for saying the Earth was round. Laws are the most changing and fickle things in the world. The one constant in the universe for mankind is decency and common sense, now scarcely seen these days, but only if you accept it that way. Somehow for whatever reason, here was one guy fighting to put it back into the equation. Now 50 trial lawyers will do it for him.
Charges will be dropped and the United is going to end up paying this guy a lot of money.
Hell ya! To be sure, all of this is fundamentally, just another industry totally messed up by government involvement. The banking industry, the auto industry, S&L, school loans, environmental protection, public school and education, now the airlines. Who didn't see it coming? Wherever Big Brother steps in to "fix" things, they always make them much worse.
Whether you think this was all caused by a rather screwy and chance confluence of a nutty passenger (thank you Jesse) or totally the airlines fault, depends on your perspective. If you are rather accepting of today's decline in public civility as being "just the way things are now", then it was the passenger's fault for not just complying. End of story. But if you are less accepting of how things are today, kinda miss the good ol' days when everyone was kinder and gentler before "zero tolerance" was invented, then you will find in the passenger's favor.
That passenger could have been ANY ONE OF US---- make no mistake that given the right circumstances, anyone might on any given day question, challenge or even resist a sudden, arbitrary effort to take you off a flight you paid for, ARE ALREADY ON THE PLANE FOR, waiting to take off, and really, really needed to get to your destination ASAP.
Especially as this should have been done (and I understand usually is done) BEFORE people board the plane. There are other ways of getting four crew members across country. Hell, they could have chartered a private plane for far far less than they will spend now. The real problem here was that the airline put THEIR needs ahead of the customers they served! And fewer and fewer companies these days seem to really value and RESPECT their customers like they used to.
In the end make no mistake: changes have already come out of this event. This is BIG, it has gone global. That alone should tell you the airline was in the wrong. YOU JUST DON'T DO THAT TO A PASSENGER/CUSTOMER who was just minding his business waiting to take off. PERIOD.
Chances are good it will be a long time before anyone is ever beaten and dragged off a plane again. This goofball doctor guy has just all made our world a tiny bit better. And legalities or not, this guy is going to CLEAN UP. To those who quote legalities, remember, it was once legal to put blacks in the back of the bus and legal to chop your head off for saying the Earth was round. Laws are the most changing and fickle things in the world. The one constant in the universe for mankind is decency and common sense, now scarcely seen these days, but only if you accept it that way. Somehow for whatever reason, here was one guy fighting to put it back into the equation. Now 50 trial lawyers will do it for him.
Charges will be dropped and the United is going to end up paying this guy a lot of money.
To a large extent I agree with you, Toob. But let me just say this about that: As a person who makes his living insuring that airplanes don't punch smoking holes in the ground, the last thing the flying public wants is ZERO government involvement in air transport. At least as far as the flight safety aspect goes, government oversight is a very necessary evil.
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