Anyone else feel wierd about smoking an estate pipe?
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A wet blanket is a welcome sight to a man on fire.
I think if an estate pipe was broken in then refurbed, it would still be broken in unless those qualities were removed with refurbing. The bowl for instance. If someone thinks a pipe is broken in when it has thin layer of cake, they would have to re-establish that layer if the bowl was reamed down to wood. I also think what constitutes a pipe hitting its stride, or peak performance, is nebulous and depends on the smoker. If a pipe was shit, then was refurbed, there is the possibility it could only have gotten better by screwing around with it. Some of my pipes seem to be getting better. But maybe I'm just becoming a better smoker with those particular pipes.
I have a four 55+ year old pipes. I purchased them new though. They smoke well of course or they wouldn't be around.
I agree with jpmcwjr. My reamers have never damaged a bowl. A well designed reamer used judicially will not harm or misshape a bowl. A misused reamer may damage a bowl but, I suspect pocket knifes, applied too enthusiastically, with a lack of attention, have damaged more pipes than reamers.
mayfair: I believe you have it nailed pretty well. Your last line is very spot on. My pipes improved as I improved in my technique for certain.
The Danish Pipe Shop . There are also special fluids that are made for internal cleaning of the pipe, and several types of products for outside care of both the bowl and the stem. Don’t use water or soap to clean the pipe. http://www.danishpipeshop.com/info.asp?text=7#.V9ja8-RTGhc
Here are some cutaways of old briar . http://pipesmagazine.com/forums/topic/autopsies-performed-on-several-old-pipes
As someone who makes pipes I encourage all smokers to by new pipes.
As someone who buys pipes I buy mostly estate pipes as if in good shape you will not lose money on them. I am in the "out to eat" catagory, as long as its clean, enjoy. Not the same as a unclean woman (thinking Bad Santa here) lol.
https://youtu.be/FZjOd_LAGHw
If you are lucky all you need is a "cillin" of some sort. No not "chillin"...I mean Penicillin..... Out of the maybe 10-15 new pipes I bought I think I smoked only 2 of em as I dont like taking the hit on em.
As someone who buys pipes I buy mostly estate pipes as if in good shape you will not lose money on them. I am in the "out to eat" catagory, as long as its clean, enjoy. Not the same as a unclean woman (thinking Bad Santa here) lol.
https://youtu.be/FZjOd_LAGHw
If you are lucky all you need is a "cillin" of some sort. No not "chillin"...I mean Penicillin..... Out of the maybe 10-15 new pipes I bought I think I smoked only 2 of em as I dont like taking the hit on em.
I have a Comoy's Crescent Canadian that I'd bought from an ebay seller that had been cleaned of all remnants of burning.
I kept it aside, and broke it out to smoke some Escudo I'd managed to age for over a year, and it tasted awful.
I've come to realize that the pipe needed 'break in'...
It has improved with continued use, but I think you need some carbon in the bowl preferably derived from a compatible blend.
I kept it aside, and broke it out to smoke some Escudo I'd managed to age for over a year, and it tasted awful.
I've come to realize that the pipe needed 'break in'...
It has improved with continued use, but I think you need some carbon in the bowl preferably derived from a compatible blend.
I definitely fall into the camp where I have no problems buying (and using) an estate pipe. Though all remnants of the previous owner must go, including cake. Smoking a pipe with someone else's cake build-up would definitely creep me out a little. I can buy used things and make them my own, cars, furniture, even dishes and cutlery. But to truly make something "my own" I have to rid it of any "leftovers" from the previous owner. So yes, every pipe I've ever cleaned/restored needed at least some additional "break in" after I was finished. But I would have to do that if I bought new, so.........
Interesting thread. The analogy of using utensils in restaurants reminded me of a chap I worked for many moons ago in Sheffield. He would regularly take his wife out for a meal and apparently she always insisted on taking and using her own cutlery. It always puzzled him why she never took any crockery too but thought it wise not to broach the subject.
Regards estate pipes, I would say 99% of my pipes are estates that I have rigorously cleansed myself and they have provided me with excellent smokes. Evidently going the estate pipe route isn't for everybody but I certainly feel no ill will to those who choose to steer clear of them.
Remember, you're a long time dead :
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Regards,
Jay.
Regards estate pipes, I would say 99% of my pipes are estates that I have rigorously cleansed myself and they have provided me with excellent smokes. Evidently going the estate pipe route isn't for everybody but I certainly feel no ill will to those who choose to steer clear of them.
Remember, you're a long time dead :
:Regards,
Jay.
1coyote said "When was the last time anyone actually went to a sale held on an Estate and purchased a pipe?"
Here's the thing about Estate Sale some people may not realize - there are companies and individuals who make their living assisting people set up Estate Sales. Those people are trained to do the research necessary to identify what belongs in an Estate Sale and what belongs in a yard sale. I think that if they see pipes, they are smart enough to do the research and determine if the pipe is something to be left on site or sold through a pipe shop specializing in Estate pipes. That's also probably why the Estate pipes from pipe shops are more than what you find in a antique/collectible shop.
@cosmic -"real life dead people" - is that what you said? I thought that would be a zombie.
Here's the thing about Estate Sale some people may not realize - there are companies and individuals who make their living assisting people set up Estate Sales. Those people are trained to do the research necessary to identify what belongs in an Estate Sale and what belongs in a yard sale. I think that if they see pipes, they are smart enough to do the research and determine if the pipe is something to be left on site or sold through a pipe shop specializing in Estate pipes. That's also probably why the Estate pipes from pipe shops are more than what you find in a antique/collectible shop.
@cosmic -"real life dead people" - is that what you said? I thought that would be a zombie.
Why do people find this so divisive?
Options can be funny things and are not always easily defended.
Some people pay to jump out of an airplane. You couldn't pay me to do it.
Some people get tattoos, some wouldn't even consider it.
Some people punch holes in parts of their body that some think had enough holes to start with.
For those that find smoking a used pipe weird arguments from those that don't believe that way are
not likely to help.
I'm not big on used pipes either there seems to be some stigma attached to it for me.
If its your thing, I don't think less of you for it, have at it.
I find a stigma attached to eating dogs but in some places they don't.
Options can be funny things and are not always easily defended.
Some people pay to jump out of an airplane. You couldn't pay me to do it.
Some people get tattoos, some wouldn't even consider it.
Some people punch holes in parts of their body that some think had enough holes to start with.
For those that find smoking a used pipe weird arguments from those that don't believe that way are
not likely to help.
I'm not big on used pipes either there seems to be some stigma attached to it for me.
If its your thing, I don't think less of you for it, have at it.
I find a stigma attached to eating dogs but in some places they don't.
Yummy horseburgers! (I write this without intention imply irrationality with opposing distaste for abuse of equine carcasses.)
When I add to this that I'm first-owner of my guitars and basses, that I haven't owned a pre-owned vehicle in 30 years, and the entirety of my active pipe rotation (save one, my first pipe) we're purchased new, it's not to imply that I don't appreciate that folks who play used musical instruments are giving them an extended life, nor do I fail to acknowledge that a used car is a practical option for folks as a cost-effective means of personal transportation, nor that I don't find folks contemplating the long and varied history of the pipes they're smoking fascinating.
I don't find smoking estate pipes to be off-putting, but I get it that some people do. I have only ever bought three used pipes. Two of them I've never used, only because their current states speak their history to me, and I'm preserving them for what they were when I got them.
I am bugged by folks who qualify their point of view by belittling dissention. I leave that to cheap politicians and iPhone vs. Andriod pundits.
When I add to this that I'm first-owner of my guitars and basses, that I haven't owned a pre-owned vehicle in 30 years, and the entirety of my active pipe rotation (save one, my first pipe) we're purchased new, it's not to imply that I don't appreciate that folks who play used musical instruments are giving them an extended life, nor do I fail to acknowledge that a used car is a practical option for folks as a cost-effective means of personal transportation, nor that I don't find folks contemplating the long and varied history of the pipes they're smoking fascinating.
I don't find smoking estate pipes to be off-putting, but I get it that some people do. I have only ever bought three used pipes. Two of them I've never used, only because their current states speak their history to me, and I'm preserving them for what they were when I got them.
I am bugged by folks who qualify their point of view by belittling dissention. I leave that to cheap politicians and iPhone vs. Andriod pundits.
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