Allergic To Red Virginia

[BrokenRecord]

I have some issues with Red Va dominated blends from McClelland, C&D, and Mac Baren, such as HH Pure Virginia, though I can still enjoy them. It is no allergy, but I am the sensitive type. .—.

However, why are we assuming that all red VA leaf produced around the world is the same. I seem to do better with non-American VA leaf, though I am fine American red leaf mixed in with other tobaccos.

 

[Richmond B. Funkenhouser]

Change the word "red" to "deluxe"... it works just the same.

 

[jmill208]

Change the word "red" to "deluxe"... it works just the same.

Thanks. Now I have an allergy to deluxe tobacco. ?

 

[cigrmaster]

I am just glad I learned about red virginias and my problem with them so I could build my cellar in 2012. I have made a couple mistakes out of the 43 blends in my cellar. Not big ones luckily but I am just glad I have a rotation that is as diverse as it is.

 

[hoosierpipeguy]

And also reds that he doesn’t know are reds. Without problem.

Examples please.

 

[hoosierpipeguy]

And let me be clear: I’m not saying people don’t have some type of reaction to it... I’m just saying that I don’t believe “allergy” to be the correct term.

That I'll buy into.

 

[brooklynpiper]

While allergy is probably the wrong term, something gives some people a reaction to red virginia. Processing, casing, terroir, chemistry. I don't really care to question it, myself being unaffected.
Isn't it all poison anyway?
At least my favorites are
And you're all allergic to Gawith Hoggarth by the way.

 

[BROBS]

I am just glad I learned about red virginias and my problem with them so I could build my cellar in 2012. I have made a couple mistakes out of the 43 blends in my cellar. Not big ones luckily but I am just glad I have a rotation that is as diverse as it is.

Right. I’m just saying that it seems to be only some reds. Or reds with less other leaf blended in.

 

[BROBS]

Examples please.

OGS, Capstan, Rotary Navy Cut

 

[hoosierpipeguy]

OGS, Capstan, Rotary Navy Cut

I did not detect an red Virginia's in any of those. If there is, it is extremely small amounts.

 

[Ahi Ka]

Why do I get the sneaky suspicion that the whole point of this thread is brobs trying to wind harris and terminator up...and neither are taking the bait.

 

[anotherbob]

Does a low hanging or high hanging cherry make a difference?

no, it’s all cherries. And the allergy would be all tobacco. At least all VA tobacco.

maybe if that actually effects the chemical composition of the cherry. Which it does with certain plants. Then you have to consider how the leaf is processed.

 

[hoosierpipeguy]

Does a low hanging or high hanging cherry make a difference?

no, it’s all cherries. And the allergy would be all tobacco. At least all VA tobacco.

Seriously? Where do you come up with this crap?

 

[instymp]

So if you drink orange juice and get a raw mouth is it an allergy?

I don’t think what is happening with smoking red VA is an allergy.

Can be a vitamin C thing.

 

[BROBS]

Seriously? Where do you come up with this crap?

It’s simple logic ?
It’s all one plant

 

[BrokenRecord]

It’s simple logic ?
It’s all one plant

Tell that to the tomato plant. Toxicity of the leaves depends on when and where they are cut from.

 

[Ahi Ka]

Tell that to the tomato plant. Toxicity of the leaves depends on when and where they are cut from.

Not too mention the chemical reaction that happens within a tobacco leaf after the plant has either been allowed to flower or has been topped. Bearing in mind bright leaf can also be harvested by priming leaves as they mature instead of stalking the whole plant at once. Leaves that are categorised as ‘red’ would be picked last, after all of the different headings have been removed. The extra time on the plant, as well as being the only leaves left would influence their chemical make up.

As mentioned above, “red Virginia as a product” has been processed (ageing, pressure, blending, case - moisture, casing etc), and then also impacted by consumer storage and smoking style, all culminating in the properties of the smoke as it is drawn into the mouth.

I am highly sensitive to smoking red Virginia as whole leaf, straight or blended. I can however manage the reaction by cadence and tongue placement, and a heavy dose of high alkaline leaf in a blend. In fact I sometimes enjoy the slight bite/tang that it can bring to a blend when used condimentally.

The room note and pouch note of “red Virginia products”, thinking along lines of sutliff krumble kake or their stoved red ribbon, makes me want to puke.

Much of this thread appears to be about semantics. I’m happy if someone uses the term allergy to describe an intense, instant and unmanageable discomfort caused by a higher ratio of red va in a blend.

 

[instymp]

Tell that to the tomato plant. Toxicity of the leaves depends on when and where they are cut from.

Tomato plants, nightshade?
Had 2 horses die of nightshade, one literally on me.

 

[hoosierpipeguy]

It’s simple logic ?
It’s all one plant

You're logic is horribly flawed.

 

[logs]

If it was an “allergy” your throat would close and you’d swell up. Not just get tongue bite.

INSTANT DEATH