I would not -- just as I don't drink decaf coffee or light beer.
If There Were No Nicotine in Pipe Tobacco...
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I asked my rabbit if he's interested but he said he'll wait until you can do this with Pak Choi.
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Smoking tobacco without nicotine, lose strength, her natural identity, not? drink a good wine Spanish Ribera del Duero or Rioja without alcohol. It would be horrible..............
The problem isn't really nicotine however, it's the delivery method. Smoking cigs is the worst thing because you inhale them so much and get so much nicotine, combined with all the tar and chemical crap. It's a train wreck. Pipes and cigars however, and yes even vaping, are so much healthier by comparison. You don't inhale pipe or cigar smoke nearly was much, even for those of us who do occasionally inhale. Vapes do hit the lungs and have their own risks but the lack of chemicals and tar makes this option much much safer than cigarettes.
We approach tobacco regulation so backwards that we look for ways to ignore cigarettes and the harm they do. It would be far more beneficial to simply ban cigarettes and leave the other tobacco products and vaping to fill the void. Big Tobacco already controls the majority of vaping anyway and the other two are either a part of that or established in their own right.
I'm sorry for the rant and I'm trying not to be political. I just have been thinking about this recently and wanted to express my thoughts. Nicotine isn't really the issue when it comes to smoking. In the UK the NHS has reported a lot of success in using vaping to get people off smoking cigarettes. Pipes worked for me and I've noticed a huge difference in my health. But I still want the nicotine and the experience of tobacco. I don't think we should worry about vaping or flavored products. We ought to just say no to big tobacco and cigarettes. Get rid of those things and you'll see a lot less attacks on tobacco usage.
We approach tobacco regulation so backwards that we look for ways to ignore cigarettes and the harm they do. It would be far more beneficial to simply ban cigarettes and leave the other tobacco products and vaping to fill the void. Big Tobacco already controls the majority of vaping anyway and the other two are either a part of that or established in their own right.
I'm sorry for the rant and I'm trying not to be political. I just have been thinking about this recently and wanted to express my thoughts. Nicotine isn't really the issue when it comes to smoking. In the UK the NHS has reported a lot of success in using vaping to get people off smoking cigarettes. Pipes worked for me and I've noticed a huge difference in my health. But I still want the nicotine and the experience of tobacco. I don't think we should worry about vaping or flavored products. We ought to just say no to big tobacco and cigarettes. Get rid of those things and you'll see a lot less attacks on tobacco usage.
I came to say I'd still smoke a pipe as long as they taste like they do. I'd just find another nic fix. But it seems kind of glib after OneGoodBulldog, who is also missing out on the taxation revenue aspect of the regulations on cigarettes.
Makes me wonder what percentage of tobacco sales go to the cigarette market. If it's high enough, ceasing cigarette production may be disastrous enough to put producers out of business leaving all tobacco users out in the cold.
So, we should ignore all of the carcinogens from the incineration of the tobacco plus, the nicotine shouldering aside the oxygen in our blood. One should simply accept the entire package that comes with taking all of the constituent negatives into our systems. The hoops many of us jump through to justify our selfish choices are amazing. You can mentally reject the negatives but, they are still there, being absorbed. Simply accept the poisons we subject our bodies to and enjoy the pipe. Be honest with yourself, sit back, put flame to weed and let the processes run their gamut while enjoying the experience. Risk v. reward!
“I don’t smoke for the nicotine” is the new “I only read Jiggly Juggs Magazine for the insightful articles” as far as I’m concerned. Might as well fill your pipe with potpourri, dried lettuce, or pencil shavings in that case.
Thing about nicotine, if you’re feeling it, it’s too much. If you’re feeling pleasantly calm and not swaying on your feet or feeling lightheaded, it’s just the right amount. If you’re sucking on your pipe to the point where there’s stretch marks on the back of your head, it’s not enough.
Thing about nicotine, if you’re feeling it, it’s too much. If you’re feeling pleasantly calm and not swaying on your feet or feeling lightheaded, it’s just the right amount. If you’re sucking on your pipe to the point where there’s stretch marks on the back of your head, it’s not enough.
I think dip or snus would become the big thing which would have an interesting effect on our choices of pipe tobaccos.
actually I've smoked wild lettuce it's a decent analgesic and helps with sleep (not much more then something like chamomile tea.)
A lot of dip is owned by big tobacco and Dark Fired is primarily grown for smokeless tobacco. The fall of cigarettes would probably take chewing blends and Dark Fired with it.
nicotine doesn't displace oxygen any more then well something like food or any other drug. Now carbon monoxide bonds really solidly to red blood cells and has a very real effect on oxygen blood levels. The thing is you have to inhale it to get it into your blood stream. So basically a pipe is safer then a cig by a very large amount. Still a risk to reward equation but not as ridiculous of one. Nicotine is about as bad for you as caffeine. There is a reason that tobacco wasn't demonized as a killer (bad for you? yes! Unhealthy and gross? Yes! Killer? No!) until after cigs became the number one way to go. One of the most fun things I ever got to do with statistics was to compare cancer rates by counties in PA with sales figures for different tobacco products. And honestly the difference between the cancer rates per capita in the counties that people mainly smoked cigarettes and the ones where any other tobacco products where the main sellers was astonishing. Like half a person out of a thousand a year too several hundred a year astonishing. Honestly it was pretty clear cut. Cigarettes are a lot more morbid then almost any other form of tobacco (there are a couple oral tobaccos used in some places that are also killers. Usually what else is added to them, like betel nut.
You might be right but I personally think if cigs disappeared a lot more people would chew. The thing is a lot of people in big tobacco also seem to think the same thing. It's why they're coming up with more types of smokeless tobacco then the market really justifies, including those nicotine pouches without tobacco. Those are basically insurance against things like tobacco being banned or become socially too unacceptable.
I love it when I learn something new and interesting. I didn’t know wild lettuce had that effect!
it certainly does. It's nothing stupendous but when you need just a little nudge into sleepy time or Tylenol won't cut it, it will do the trick. Oh and it tastes a lot like match heads smell.
yes it does and it tastes a lot better then lettuce tea. And you can smoke both. Chamomile is great in a warm bath for minor but persistent aches.
Would that theoretical lack of nicotine in tobacco mean that many pipe smokers would turn to kitchen gardening in order to harvest the leaves off their tomato plants, and curing them for adding as a condiment to their pipe tobaccos to get that nic hit?
I don't choose a blend for nicotine. I don't have cravings when I take time off from smoking. Still, I suppose there is a sort of attraction to the occasional nicotine buzz, though I doubt the absence of that would make me not smoke. I have to drink decaf coffee for various reasons related to health and mood, and I don't like it as well, but I still want hot coffee with breakfast.