Will Deeming Regs Hit The Grassroots Smoker?

[mso489]

How about the guy who smokes only one blend that comes in a tub or a pouch and has been in production for 104 years, and owns a pipe or two. Will the regs sneak up on him? Will it change where he buys his tobacco? Will it make any codger blends disappear? Are the regs just affecting us pipe hobbyist premium blend smokers, or are they after gramps at the general store too?

 

[Old School 3319]

I hope not cause I smoke codger's 98% of the time

 

[mso489]

Aging, alas, doesn't add a lot of pleasures to life, and cutting the few from under old fellas (and gals!) seems just plain nasty to me. Anything we can do to rub regulators and legislators noses in that is all to the good. It requires a face, a name, a situation, a narrative. Just keep it in mind.

 

[Richmond B. Funkenhouser]

I'm thinking its all a slow march to tobacco becoming unavailable.. I doubt it will ever become illegal. It will be such a pain in the ass to deal with all the regulations that companys will just go away. This might happen pretty fast.. no one has the back of the smoker. When seatbelts became mandatory for grown ass men, that's when you could have seen this coming. A trend of laws to protect people from themselves..

But keep it clear, its not about pipes, cigars or cigarettes.. It's about a tobacco free world.

 

[verporchting]

Sadly I think Funkenhouser nailed it.

 

[Old School 3319]

I'm thinking its all a slow march to tobacco becoming unavailable.. I doubt it will ever become illegal. It will be such a pain in the ass to deal with all the regulations that companys will just go away. This might happen pretty fast.. no one has the back of the smoker. When seatbelts became mandatory for grown ass men, that's when you could have seen this coming. A trend of laws to protect people from themselves..

But keep it clear, its not about pipes, cigars or cigarettes.. It's about a tobacco free world.

I still don't wear a seat belt and wont ever

 

[jdb67]

"That those who know what's best for us
Must rise and save us from ourselves"

From the Rush song Witch Hunt. God Rest Neal Peart.

 

[Chasing Embers]

So far it only affects blends produced after February 2007. The rest will be attacked at a later time.

And grassroots will ghost a pipe.

 

[verporchting]

Duane, what kind of grass are you smoking to ghost a pipe? ???

 

[sandollars]

And grassroots will ghost a pipe.

So do Pine tree saplings but that didn't stop you! Poor Dunhill....

 

[BROBS]

I'm thinking its all a slow march to tobacco becoming unavailable.. I doubt it will ever become illegal. It will be such a pain in the ass to deal with all the regulations that companys will just go away. This might happen pretty fast.. no one has the back of the smoker. When seatbelts became mandatory for grown ass men, that's when you could have seen this coming. A trend of laws to protect people from themselves..

But keep it clear, its not about pipes, cigars or cigarettes.. It's about a tobacco free world.

Well to play the devil’s advocate (I never do that) the reason for seatbelt laws is people getting into car accidents, becoming disabled, and the state then being responsible for them. The idea is that seatbelts prevent head injuries therefore reducing the state’s end cost in the event of an accident.

Same with smoking. How many people receiving government assistance or free healthcare smoke? This costs the government money, and they don’t like that.

 

[Chasing Embers]

So do Pine tree saplings but that didn't stop you! Poor Dunhill....

Poorly drilled Dunhill.?

This one's safe, it was $20 and the drilling is arrow straight.

 

[Richmond B. Funkenhouser]

Well to play the devil’s advocate (I never do that) the reason for seatbelt laws is people getting into car accidents, becoming disabled, and the state then being responsible for them. The idea is that seatbelts prevent head injuries therefore reducing the state’s end cost in the event of an accident.

Same with smoking. How many people receiving government assistance or free healthcare smoke? This costs the government money, and they don’t like that.

Exactly, protecting them from themselves to save the government money.

 

[gervais]

If they ban internet sales....ima be pissed

 

[Worknman]

So far it only affects blends produced after February 2007.

Which basically leaves us with Captain Black and maybe one or two other blends. ?

 

[3rdguy]

Death by 1000 cuts.

 

[weezell]

Well to play the devil’s advocate (I never do that) the reason for seatbelt laws is people getting into car accidents, becoming disabled, and the state then being responsible for them. The idea is that seatbelts prevent head injuries therefore reducing the state’s end cost in the event of an accident.

Same with smoking. How many people receiving government assistance or free healthcare smoke? This costs the government money, and they don’t like that.

Don't get me started on the people the state is responsible for being idiots. You look at all the gang bangers in the town I live in or worst case Chicago( 18 murders last weekend and who knows how many shot) that their hospital care was on our backs.A lot of their children will now be on SS payments till they are 18.Look at all the opoid addicted people that have over dosed to the point they are now blithering idiots that are now on the dole.The states got an award for million of dollars from the Big tobacco companies and pisssed away rather than putting in to the care of the smokers who helped these big companies amass their Billions. What you mention is adrop in the bucket my friend...

 

[BROBS]

Don't get me started on the people the state is responsible for being idiots. You look at all the gang bangers in the town I live in or worst case Chicago( 18 murders last weekend and who knows how many shot) that their hospital care was on our backs.A lot of their children will now be on SS payments till they are 18.Look at all the opoid addicted people that have over dosed to the point they are now blithering idiots that are now on the dole.The states got an award for million of dollars from the Big tobacco companies and pisssed away rather than putting in to the care of the smokers who helped these big companies amass their Billions. What you mention is adrop in the bucket my friend...

Oh I agree. Just stating their reasoning behind all this.

I don’t think a good portion of the folk deserve the help they get.

 

[Chasing Embers]

Which basically leaves us with Captain Black and maybe one or two other blends. ?

Not a problem with that.?

 

[weezell]

And the sad part is the ones who deserve the help get nothing because they don't
know how or will not play the system. I pray for them. God Bless them as it could be you or me...