Love those older Porsches, as above. Wish they still made them like that. I was barreling along at night in a 911S once, happily smoking a pipe, in the rain, amazed at its road-holding. Then I entered a curve just a little hot. And lifted. Nice clean spin. Didn't touch nothin', and I proceeded to deliver it successfully in New York City. Cool cars, not for amateurs or the abstracted.