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Yes, most interesting. I've been watching EPL for only 4-5 years, and knew nothing of Leeds, much less Derby.

I have watched a bit over half of it, but it seems to me he's portrayed as a pompous, sometimes nasty, genius. Lots of Chutzpah, too.

Brian Clough was a definite one off. No manager before or since had the gift of the gab like Cloughie. He was confident in his abilities and to say he was full of himself would be an understatement (his nickname was old big 'ed), but he could back it up. He won the first division (now the Premier League) with Derby, who are a smaller club, then he went on to win the league with Nottingham Forest AND back to back European Cups in 1979 and 1980.

Below is a funny little clip from a football show from 1974 where Cloughie was a panelist. The legendary Muhammed Ali sends Brian a video message telling him to be quiet as there's only room for one great talker.
By the way I'm glad you seem to be enjoying the movie jpmcwjr?.

 
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George Best: All By Himself on the BBC iplayer.
It's a documentary about legendary Manchester United player George Best. It was so sad to see him go from a fresh faced kid at Man U to the best footballer on the planet (which he was for a time there in the 1960's), then his long, slow slide into alcoholism. The final picture of him laying in a hospital bed all yellow and sickly looking was particularly sad to see.

Still whatever George became he definitely lived an amazing life. He played for one of the biggest clubs in the world and won the league and the European Cup (now called the Champions League), I think he dated 2 Miss Worlds as well?.

George had some great one liners, here's my favourite:
"I spent a lot of money on booze, birds and fast cars. The rest I just squandered."

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The Elephant Man on the BBC iplayer.
It's a film based on the tragic life of a man named Joseph Merrick who was born with terrible deformities. It's a very sad tale but also an uplifting one as Joseph bore the rotten hand he was dealt with great courage.

The late John Hurt plays Merrick quite brilliantly and deservedly won the best actor Oscar. There's a great supporting cast including Sir Anthony Hopkins as the doctor who treats and befriends Merrick, Anne Bancroft and Sir John Gielgud. David Lynch directs.

It's a brilliant movie that is quite close to what really happened (I've seen a couple of documentaries on Joseph Merrick's life) and is definitely worth watching if you've not seen it.

The scene where Merrick recites the 23rd Psalms to the astonishment of the doctors always brings a lump to my throat.
Definitely a 5/5

 

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The Elephant Man on the BBC iplayer.

That's also a favourite of mine and indeed a great movie!

I'm currently watching the 70ies / 80ies film version of Brideshead Revisited, which is also starring Sir John Gielgud in a side role. Jeremy Irons, who plays a lead as Charles Ryder does a lot of pipe smoking in the movie, by the way.

I give it a 5/5.
 
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The King Of Comedy on Amazon Prime.
A great movie with a brilliant director/cast. Rupert is such a loveable sap.

The bit where he's doing his pretend talk show in his mum's basement always makes me laugh.

"Rupert who are you talking to down there?"
"MAAAA! PLEASE!"

Even his name makes me chuckle. Rupert Pupkin??.

5/5

 
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Arkansas - wow, loved it, a solid A. It might be Vince Vaughns finest moment. Great sound track by the Flaming Lips. The only thing keeping it from an A+ would be the story was a bit segmented, so pay attention.

 
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Cape Fear on Amazon Prime.
It's a story about a rapist named Max Cady (Robert De Niro) who half batters to death his victim, his lawyer (Nick Nolte) stitches him up so he goes to prison for a long time.
Fast forward 14 years and a recently released Cady has found out what his lawyer did to him and is out for revenge.
It's a remake of a 1960s film of the same name that stars Robert Mitchum in the Max Cady role and Gregory Peck as his lawyer. One of the nice touches is Mitchum and Peck have small cameo roles in the new version.

De Niro plays the role of psychotic Max Cady brilliantly. He has a sort of southern accent (Cajun?) that goes well with his character, even his tattoos are menacing!
Martin Scorsese directs and I'd give it a 4/5. The original is a good film as well.

 
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I recently saw the original. I'd say the remake is better.
DeNiro was a little over the top and the accent doesn't quite ring true - but he was truly menacing.

My favorite scene:


Cape Fear on Amazon Prime.
It's a story about a rapist named Max Cady (Robert De Niro) who half batters to death his victim, his lawyer (Nick Nolte) stitches him up so he goes to prison for a long time.
Fast forward 14 years and a recently released Cady has found out what his lawyer did to him and is out for revenge.
It's a remake of a 1960s film of the same name that stars Robert Mitchum in the Max Cady role and Gregory Peck as his lawyer. One of the nice touches is Mitchum and Peck have small cameo roles in the new version.

De Niro plays the role of psychotic Max Cady brilliantly. He has a sort of southern accent (Cajun?) that goes well with his character, even his tattoos are menacing!
Martin Scorsese directs and I'd give it a 4/5. The original is a good film as well.

 

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Halfway through the first season of Stranger Things. I'm enjoying it, but I expected it to be better from everything I've heard.
 
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"Deadwater Fell"...Acorn TV w. David Tennant.

Mr. Tennant is surprisingly convincing here in this 4 part series as a doctor in a small Scottish town who stands accused after losing his wife and children in a housefire. Well done all around.

3/5...I would have scored this a bit higher but, it does sport that pesky little "shakey-cam" shit.
 
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I recently saw the original. I'd say the remake is better.
DeNiro was a little over the top and the accent doesn't quite ring true - but he was truly menacing.

My favorite scene:


Yeah I preferred the remake as well, I still enjoyed the first movie though. It was from a totally different era so had a different feel about it.

As for American accents I've never visited the USA☹️ so I only know what I've gleaned from TV and movies. The 3 I've heard time and again are:
Southern drawl "I thank you kindly ma'am"
Northern (New York) "Hey buddy while you's there get me a cup of cawfee whudya?"
And ditzy Californian Valley girl "I was like umm, talking to Sandra and she was like OMG what-ever."

It's probably the same for American's who have never visited England and only know us through TV and films. I'm guessing they get the impression that we all either talk in a posh aristocratic way like in Downton Abbey or a Cockney/South London gangster accent like in Lock, Stock and Two Smoking Barrels.
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prndl

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Just goes to show...I liked the original "Cape Fear" better.

That may be because I was born in the next state down and, to me, Mitchum's accent was the more subtle while De Niro just sounded like most Yankees trying to talk "Southern". That may play well in Peoria but, it ain't gonna fly in Savannah.

Oh, well...both overall good movies.
 

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Yeah I preferred the remake as well, I still enjoyed the first movie though. It was from a totally different era so had a different feel about it.

As for American accents I've never visited the USA☹ so I only know what I've gleaned from TV and movies. The 3 I've heard time and again are:
Southern drawl "I thank you kindly ma'am"
Northern (New York) "Hey buddy while you's there get me a cup of cawfee whudya?"
And ditzy Californian Valley girl "I was like umm, talking to Sandra and she was like OMG what-ever."

It's probably the same for American's who have never visited England and only know us through TV and films. I'm guessing they get the impression that we all either talk in a posh aristocratic way like in Downton Abbey or a Cockney/South London gangster accent like in Lock, Stock and Two Smoking Barrels.

Right on both cultures, and the accents therein. Your US examples are right on. Although for the Southern accent, I might have chosen "If ya go to a family weddin' to look for a date, you just might be a redneck." :) (Though the majority of Southerners are not redneck at all.)

I lived in Hertfordshire for a year at school and have made a bunch of trips to London, but never ever have I heard an Englishman or woman say "Pip-pip".
 
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