Man, that's cold....I am still driving and flying around the world, because... even though the climate is changing, I don't care.
This goes towards my answer for your second question... I figure that climate change will kill off the extra people.
UFO's & UAP's: Is the Truth Out There?
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Well, two problems that fix each other. It's better to let nature do the dirty work than to have humans select who will live and who will die.Man, that's cold....
Straight from the humor thread..........................
That's not what I said.
I'm saying if there should be less people, why don't you go first?
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I love it !! My Dad (born 1920) used to say that all the time ... every time I told him about some new idea, belief or hair brained scheme from whereever that someone wanted other people to do and ask him what he thought ... he would respond ... You go first ! ,,,
Speaking of climate and things floating around in it: I received a phone call from my local volunteer fire department on the Emergency Alert System that there was a smell of smoke in my Town and to stay indoors if it would bother me; it was being caused by wildfires in Massachusetts floating over Connecticut.
I had to run to the Post Office and sure enough the air was hazy throughout Town but no smell of smoke.
No one else I spoke to seemed to have gotten this call. I couldn't find anything on local news. So I Googled Massachusetts Wildfire Map and sure enough ... It pulled up an interactive map showing wildfires in Washington, Oregon, Montana and Wyoming ! Fortunately there was a 'hand thingy' that I used to scroll all the way east to Massachusetts and there are no wildfires depicted in Massachusetts. There were however two wildfires actually in Connecticut : The Rocky Hill wildfire and the Hawthorne wildfire. (I think those are both state parks.). The point of all this is that if there are UFOs and UAPs and Aliens ... you can trust your government to tell you and get it right !
I had to run to the Post Office and sure enough the air was hazy throughout Town but no smell of smoke.
No one else I spoke to seemed to have gotten this call. I couldn't find anything on local news. So I Googled Massachusetts Wildfire Map and sure enough ... It pulled up an interactive map showing wildfires in Washington, Oregon, Montana and Wyoming ! Fortunately there was a 'hand thingy' that I used to scroll all the way east to Massachusetts and there are no wildfires depicted in Massachusetts. There were however two wildfires actually in Connecticut : The Rocky Hill wildfire and the Hawthorne wildfire. (I think those are both state parks.). The point of all this is that if there are UFOs and UAPs and Aliens ... you can trust your government to tell you and get it right !
Oregon is always burning.Speaking of climate and things floating around in it: I received a phone call from my local volunteer fire department on the Emergency Alert System that there was a smell of smoke in my Town and to stay indoors if it would bother me; it was being caused by wildfires in Massachusetts floating over Connecticut.
I had to run to the Post Office and sure enough the air was hazy throughout Town but no smell of smoke.
No one else I spoke to seemed to have gotten this call. I couldn't find anything on local news. So I Googled Massachusetts Wildfire Map and sure enough ... It pulled up an interactive map showing wildfires in Washington, Oregon, Montana and Wyoming ! Fortunately there was a 'hand thingy' that I used to scroll all the way east to Massachusetts and there are no wildfires depicted in Massachusetts. There were however two wildfires actually in Connecticut : The Rocky Hill wildfire and the Hawthorne wildfire. (I think those are both state parks.). The point of all this is that if there are UFOs and UAPs and Aliens ... you can trust your government to tell you and get it right !
This really good thread about extraterrestrial life and UFOs is quickly
It's a perfect example as to why extraterrestrials wouldn't bother visiting this place.
All things considered, I'm actually pleased that it's overall sounded like adults bouncing around ideas without losing sleep over others' differences. I'd have expected it to be shut down by now, but it seems to me that the participants are proving that that's not necessary. Nobody has gotten overly personal or histrionic. At most there are eyerolls in both directions, and anybody should be able to live with some eyerolls.
I won't pretend to have a sufficiently informed understanding of climate change claims, one way or the other (although that in itself is tantamount to one of the viable positions in this conversation), but just for fun -- and without making much of a point -- here's a gem from Sagan's Cosmos, published as late as (I kid you not) 1981:
"Forests are darker than grasslands, and grasslands are darker than deserts. As a consequence, the amount of sunlight that is absorbed by the ground has been declining, and by changes in the land use we are lowering the surface temperature of our planet. Might this cooling increase the size of the solar ice cap, which, because it ts bright, will reflect still more sunlight from the Earth, further cooling the planet, driving a runaway albedo effect?"
"Forests are darker than grasslands, and grasslands are darker than deserts. As a consequence, the amount of sunlight that is absorbed by the ground has been declining, and by changes in the land use we are lowering the surface temperature of our planet. Might this cooling increase the size of the solar ice cap, which, because it ts bright, will reflect still more sunlight from the Earth, further cooling the planet, driving a runaway albedo effect?"
I love Carl Sagan. I almost pursued a career in Astronomy because of his brilliance and enthusiasm. I might have taken UCLA's offer of a full scholarship from the Department of Mathematics to pursue it, ya gotta know math, but art won out.
Keep in mind that Sagan was not a climatologist.
Science is always a battle. That's the nature of debate. But when 97% of climatologists agree about climate change, that's significant.
If 97% of climatologists are funded by the same interests with the same agenda, then that makes that talking point a bit misleading.
We stopped allowing our forests to maintain equilibrium through healthy, naturally occurring, low temperature burns about about a century ago. We now have ladder fuels abound, decades-old dwarf trees, tree replants after logging that lack species or age diversity, and a problem that is completely unmanageable. The second we started putting out every fire that would have naturally maintained the health of our forest systems was when we created a problem that didn't exist. Ironically, Smokey the Bear messaging has been one of the most catastrophic things to ever happen to our forests.
I've read that they started with 14,000 papers, whittled that down to 500 or so, then again to 68 (can't remember the criteria) and 97% of their writers agree. It sounds somewhat... mad?
I imagine a climatologist won't last very long after being labled a "climate denier."