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Lifer
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As someone who has had a houseful of kids, I totally understand what has been said. What I am baffled with are the men (or women) that say before they have kids, "I really want a baby?"
After we hear that the baby is a given, I totally understand stepping up and doing what you have to. But, it's when a I hear someone say, "I really want a baby," before they even engage in procreation. That's what baffles me.

What does that young person expect to glean from having a baby?

Wife and I planned ours because we wanted them. It's genetic and deeply ingrained in, at least, our psyches. I expected to - and did - glean a sense of completion, duty, and the continuation of the divine comedy.
 

anotherbob

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Wife and I planned ours because we wanted them. It's genetic and deeply ingrained in, at least, our psyches. I expected to - and did - glean a sense of completion, duty, and the continuation of the divine comedy.
Well and also the babies are just so precious and cute and stay that way until somewhere around thirteen. Although same applies to cats and you don't have to worry about college with a cat. Just saying cats are a more practical choice for keeping something cute around the house.
Side note came to this thread to point out that no one has mentioned one of the biggest benefits of children... Which is that in a post apocalyptic world (that we frankly have been sitting on the rim of since sometime B.C.) children have a very high trade value. Especially if they're healthy and have a strong back.
 
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MisterBadger

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Man is the only creation that received God's breath and is created in God's image, along with that comes Man's desire to create in his own image.
Bearing children is the closest a man can come to being God.
Maybe, but surely everything created by God wants to recreate itself in its own image, regardless of the divine order to go forth and multiply?
 
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FLDRD

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the thing is when I was 16 through 18 I meet a lot of girls from across the country who came to this area for math and science camps. A few of those girls claimed to be on birth control. So at least the kid should have extra nerd genes and powers if they do in fact exist.
I was just plain stupid.
 
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Infantry23

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Well and also the babies are just so precious and cute and stay that way until somewhere around thirteen. Although same applies to cats and you don't have to worry about college with a cat. Just saying cats are a more practical choice for keeping something cute around the house.
Side note came to this thread to point out that no one has mentioned one of the biggest benefits of children... Which is that in a post apocalyptic world (that we frankly have been sitting on the rim of since sometime B.C.) children have a very high trade value. Especially if they're healthy and have a strong back.
Lol, great point! In my household, with 8 sons, I have at least a squad-sized element for 360 degree security and sleep shifts in case the apocalypse, zombie apocalypse, WW3, etc befalls humanity!
 

LeafErikson

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When you drop a mug and it shatters, you might not be able to find all of the ceramic pieces that have ended up in various nooks and crannies around the room. While cleaning up the mess on your hands and knees, you might end up finding things you didn't know were there. That's kind of what having kids is like. You end up losing pieces of yourself, due to the sacrifice and selflessness required to be a present, decent parent. But, in the process, you end up discovering things about yourself that you didn't know were there.

I always knew that I wanted to have kids, and I knew I didn't want to be one of those people who waited until they were in their mid-30s to have them. It would have been a deal breaker for me if the woman I was with didn't want any. I have a 5-year-old daughter now and a son due in February. I love my family and nothing gives me more joy in life than spending time with them. Not to say that all of the time is joyous (haha), just that when the time with them is joyous, the joy is not exceeded by any other activity.
 
I was reluctant to start this thread, but I’m glad I did now. Even though not 100% on my target, I’ve enjoyed reading your responces. It’s heart warming and yet also humorous.

Kids also drive us fathers to keep working harder and making more of ourselves. I would have never seen that beforehand. But, when you get that first message that yoir going to be a dad, most of us step up and make it happen, get the bills paid, good on the plates, and shoes on the feet.

6 weeks after my second daughter was born, my wife, whom I dearly loved at the time had a psychotic break. She just took off and left me with a one year old and a 6 week old baby. I had just accepted a position at a museum as a curator, expecting to be setting up shows and writing drivel papers on aesthetics. I managed to take care of two little unexpected girls and keep that job, while trying to reinvent a career for myself that would manage to keep me in art and keep us in a house.

Now, I am making a menu for Thanksgiving at my house where my 7 kids will return to Alabama with their loved ones and their dogs to spend Thanksgiving.
However, if I was asked back in high school or college what I thought of having kids… I would have been shocked, because they were never in my master plan to be an artist. Now, because of my kids, I have built much much more than that. And, I am thankful for them beyond what words can convey.
 

AndyNJ

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One joy is both of them stopping by with all lights on the dash board on. Tire warning light. Oli warning light on. Engine stuttering for running low grade gas in a small turbo engine etc. Bonnet doesn’t open due to fender bender and gas is entirely empty. Here dad. Spend the entire Sunday getting them to run again.
 

didimauw

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First off... I have 7 children in all, including two steps, and two fosters, and one that came to me at age 14... cough cough, long story. And, one grandbaby. But, In all of my kids, I never actually set out to have any kids on purpose, ha ha. Like about half of all men who get married, we just sort of wanted to do the "Right Thing" after making a whoops.

Anyways, I don't hate kids, but as I was talking to my two daughters closest to me recently, they asked me, "what is the benefit of having kids?"

At one time, they could be looked upon to take care of us in our old age, but that's bullshit these days. I don't really want one of my kids taking care of me anyways. I'll just pay a nurse if that comes about.

I understand that some women feel compelled to have kids, whether some genetic or hormonal voodoo, or that they just liked playing house as kids and one day want to dress and feed a little ankle biting shit themselves.

On my wife's reality series she watches I will occasionally hear men on there talking about really wanting a kid or kids. At first, I was like, that's just something a guy says to fuck some woman that wants a baby. Or, it was written in by a female script writer. I just have never ever in my life heard a man say that they want child. Men make babies out of ooopsies or they get married and feel family pressures to have kids.
And, in my 60's all of that old fashioned shit about family name and living on in our kids just seems like a bigger pile of bullshit.

With the cost of having and raising babies, why?
Maybe one of you guys were that type of guy who wanted to have kids... why and for what purpose? Tell us why you want a baby, or wanted to have a baby, and why.
I wasn't planning on having a child. We got engaged, and then a few months later found out she was pregnant, and had to postpone our wedding due to our daughter coming. But I'm glad I had her when I did. I was afraid I was too young, at 22, but I'm glad I am a younger father. 35 now. Boy time flies.1000051428.jpg1000002579.jpg
 

georged

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Like most human-behavior-related things in modern times, the answer can be found in the 2-3 million years of human evolution which preceded modern times.

In this case, fertilizing females was a male's Job One, and getting emotional about it made him less effective at doing it.

The end.

The "intertia" (for lack of a better term) of that biological reality in today's world makes for all manner of awkwardness, problems, and discussion, but Mother Nature gives a shit, not.
 
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Well and also the babies are just so precious and cute and stay that way until somewhere around thirteen. Although same applies to cats and you don't have to worry about college with a cat. Just saying cats are a more practical choice for keeping something cute around the house.
Side note came to this thread to point out that no one has mentioned one of the biggest benefits of children... Which is that in a post apocalyptic world (that we frankly have been sitting on the rim of since sometime B.C.) children have a very high trade value. Especially if they're healthy and have a strong back.

For cute around the house, I have a wife. Cats are hell beasts, of which we have several. I trust the outdoor cat much more than the indoor cats. I trust nothing that shits in a box.
 
I wasn't planning on having a child. We got engaged, and then a few months later found out she was pregnant, and had to postpone our wedding due to our daughter coming. But I'm glad I had her when I did. I was afraid I was too young, at 22, but I'm glad I am a younger father. 35 now. Boy time flies.View attachment 350078View attachment 350079
What a lovely family, Didi. Congrats!
Yeh, my first wife was plump with child at our wedding. We went straight to the OB right afterwards. Ha ha.
 

Sig

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It's surprising me how many guys here don't have or want kids.
In my world, I'm the exception.
I only have a couple male friends without kids, and both are not great catches anyways, so, no great loss. :)
My brother never wanted kids, then he met a woman and BAM, 2 kids in 18 months. He was in his 40s.
His wife died a few years back.
I'm not sure why guys around here are the type who want kids. Maybe it's because it's very rural and there isn't much to do.
Or, more likely, it's the very Christian conservative area we live in.
I was raised EXTREMELY religious, but not anymore. And I am politically homeless.....(however I'm very happy about recent changes.) 🇺🇸
Don't get me wrong, I like kids......your kids, not mine.
My hoodlum little neices and nephews are great......slave labor around the farm. They work for food and I can verbally abuse them all I want.
 

HeavyLeadBelly

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@Sig I think it’s best to shy away from politics on here though I do agree that people who are more religious and maybe more conservative tend to embrace the family life and having children is part of that. I’m not very religious (I’m a lapsed Catholic whose views don’t line up exactly with the Church) but have wanted children over the years. However, I was told at a young age by an aunt of mine that if I thought I was responsible enough to stick it into a woman I should be responsible enough to take care of what comes out of her. That stuck with me until this day and seeing how many friends, family, and high school classmates get pregnant and really struggle, I made sure I used contraception always (If God made man, man made contraception is a gift from God) until I was financially ready to raise a child in a stable home. Life gets crazy and I’ve never felt ready for children. Like I said in an earlier post, I’m not opposed to having children, and I’ve been a stepfather before, but I need to be ready for it and if I never have any I’ve made my peace with it.