I'm sorry. I didn't mean to tie you up and force you to read this thread. I wholeheartedly apologize.
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Which red VAs are you smoking that have that deep stewed fruit flavor? I used to rely on McClellands for that, but most of the other VAs I've tried are more vegetal/grassy.
The one problem I have with some of the comments on this thread is the damning of Sutliff for doing something “disgusting “ to their tobacco, an implication that they added vinegar. Where is the “proof” of this? Has a representative or blender for Sutliff been quoted as adding this to the blend or are we using the same senses that we are criticizing others for using?
I may just have to try Interlude. I like CRF but to me it's missing something and this may be it.
Sutliff VA Slices might do the trick - it's light and grassy w/out too much flavor (like CRF).
Another you might try is Solani 633 - it has a touch of Perique, but it's light, sweet, grassy and a little bit spicy.
Another you might try is Solani 633 - it has a touch of Perique, but it's light, sweet, grassy and a little bit spicy.
Agree I personally love sutliff red VA.
I believe that I am the only one making this conjecture. But, nowhere in the above posts do I deem Sutliff in the wrong for having made this blend. I started by merely responding to a post saying that McClelland's added vinegar to their blends. Reread it. I didn't even mention Sutliff until someone else did. However, if I want to deem Sutliff's blend disgusting, it is every bit my prerogative to do so. Mixture 79 is also disgusting. The Honda Element is disgusting. Tarantino movies are disgusting. I also hate Dustin Hoffman in all movies he has attempted to act in.
However, my deeming it disgusting doesn't mean that they did something wrong. Whether they grew the vinegar in test tubes or merely sprayed catpiss on it, the proof I need is in the pudding. I hate it as it stands. But, if you like it, so be it. I will bet there is something that I like that get bashed by someone out there, and I don't lose a bit of sleep over it.
If someone posted that they hate C&D Habana Daydream every single day on this forum, that does not bother me one bit, nor takes away from the pleasure that this blend gives me.
I'm so sorry that I have pierced the soft shells of some of you men. I can't believe that someone would get offended so easily. I will wear my softest padded gloves when posting from here on out.
I don't have a problem with this at all. More for me.
But, don't let my sillyness detract from the fact that Mike and Greg are on record saying that McClellands did not add vinegar to theirs.
Honestly, I don't care what Sutliff did to theirs. I can not like something for no reason at all.
Honestly, I don't care what Sutliff did to theirs. I can not like something for no reason at all.
Yeah, but if someone claimed recently tinned Escudo smoked in a cob is enjoyable...... well, that might cross some lines.
I rather enjoyed watching the two lovebirds spat. I noted to never fart in front of sablebrush unless I wanted him to evaluate what I had eaten the previous 2 meals.
I actually do respect and enjoy sablebrushes posts very much. He is an expert in so many areas. And, I have conceded to him on jarring tins; however, I myself do not recommend most folks just indiscriminately jar everything. But, that doesn't mean that I don't find value in him suggesting it to others.
I just think on this one issue that we tend to bump heads. But, I think that if he reflected a bit, we would probably see from the same perspective. Otherwise, I would just ignore him, ha ha. But, as I have said, I respect the hell out of him.
Dammit! Hush!! I really enjoy C&D's Red Virginias, but I don't want everyone rushing over there to buy them up. They already seem to be out of most of their bulks.
I should add that there is quite a bit of a nic punch in their reds that newbies might not bode well with.
Nice parsing. Be it cat piss or vinegar, you are doing no more than making a conjecture similar to the ones that you were admonishing. I do not have a problem, either, with anyone’s likes or dislikes. I have not formally debated since high school nor have I coached it but, that sort of tactic is a bit specious.
The judges haven’t cited me yet, ha ha! This isn’t a high school debate. But, if it were, I’d point out that the point that I was making was that there is irrefutable proof that McClellands did not add vinegar, which offsets conjecture about them.
Any conjecture about Sutliff was not the point that I was initially trying to make. That was just added entertainment... for free.
The 2019 CRF is outstanding IMO with plenty of flavor, I haven't tried any others. I remember Jeremy Reeves saying they used that batch of reds (or maybe that particular grade) in Speakeasy, although that blend isn't a straight virginia.
He's an expert in everything. Don't believe me, just ask him.
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