So What is the Latest on Dunhill?

[georged]

R ---
It's a protracted process called "harvesting", not a binary switch. a.k.a. the "ride the sunk cost horse as long as reasonably possible" plan.
In another few years even the cigarettes will be gone.

 

[cigrmaster]

If they do re license the name to someone then my plan would go straight into the shitter, I didn't think about that, glad it was mentioned by MSO, thanks buddy.

 

[rhoadsie]

It's a protracted process called "harvesting", not a binary switch. a.k.a. the "ride the sunk cost horse as long as reasonably possible" plan.
In another few years even the cigarettes will be gone.

Thanks georged
That's why I'm not a business major.

 

[warren]

Irony? I see nothing ironic in making money catering to smokers and then leaving them without a favored product when the product no longer makes sufficient moneys.
Ironic would be if Alfred Dunhill had begat and funded the "American Cancer Society" years after the Dunhill pipes/blends/cigarettes/cigars came into being, only for the society to abet the discovery that smoking caused some cancers. That would indeed be ironic!

 

[daveinlax]

The tobacco side of Dunhill is kind of a separate animal, licensed?/leased? to British American Tobacco.

I thought the name was sold the 90's when the when the Dunhill logo went from the tails to the script in the Rothman's era. I'm sure there was some common ownership but I thought it ended with Richemont around the master settlement time.

What is the estimate of the end ? 2018 or 19 ?

Who knows? I still hope this was done to clean up the books when they bought Reynolds last year and this will get forgotten.

Dunhill went all in on their expensive, status-connected, "snob-appeal" marketing bet a long time ago.

Yeah in 1907 and sadly that little white spot been working on me since 1983. 8O

 

[brian64]

The subject of cancer is a vast universe of irony all by itself.
But the scapegoat of tobacco has somehow been the only thing necessary to normalize all of that irony...which is quite ironic.

 

[derekflint]

Is it time now to start stocking up ?

 

[sablebrush52]

Is it time now to start stocking up ?

Yes. You never know when a favored blend will disappear. At least in this instance, you've been warned.

 

[mso489]

Plenty of blends with less visibility disappear with no warning. I assume a number of people will buy up Dunhill blends with the idea of aging and selling them later at a substantial markup as "pre-transition," or as treasured extinct blends. As long as tobacco can be sold on ebay or elsewhere on the internet, this might be a profit maker. Or pipe shows. If the blends slowly fade, so might the allure, but I think there will be buyers with a strong longing for many years to come.

 

[mikethompson]

I am confused by the idea that production of pipe tobacco is ending because Dunhill wants to distance itself from tobacco, but will continue to produce cigarettes. Huh?
But just to give another kick to this dead horse, yes stock up if you like Dunhill blends or as a potential investment, but try out other blends as well.

 

[jpmcwjr]

I am confused by the idea that production of pipe tobacco is ending because Dunhill wants to distance itself from tobacco, but will continue to produce cigarettes. Huh?

I think the premise (heard floated a number of times) is simply wrong. It's either too small or too unprofitable (or both) to fit into their corporate designs.

 

[sablebrush52]

BAT said that they were ending manufacture of Dunhill blends. Really, that sums it up.

 

[warren]

mike: They are luxury cigarettes and are profitable. Pipe blends are not. The cigarettes will go away when they are no longer profitable. The Dunhill cigarette is nothing like the common grocery store coffin nails. I smoke MCDs, another luxury cigarette (Just sold to BAT I believe.), that bears little in common with Marlboro or the other, more common brands. More expensive, no chemical infused paper, higher class tobacco. The difference between Boone's Farm and a great Chateauneuf du Pape.

 

[instymp]

When I lived in Europe a long time ago, smoked Dunhill's & Players cigs. Were the best, one filtered & one not.

Pipe tobaccos...Dunhill's are one of my favorites.

 

[rhoadsie]

Well, I'll continue to contribute to the demise of Dunhill pipe tobacco an order of MM 965 at a time.

 

[pianopuffer]

I agree with mso, these seem to be a well-liked brand, no matter which iteration/blender was making them. Seeing as how tobacco won't be getting cheaper in the future, I plan to stock up on those blends which I do prefer (EMP, Aperitif, Dark Flake) and throw in a couple extras on each order to cellar.
They'll either make great gifts to fellow pipe smokers or someone who's jonesing for a blend from yesteryear.

 

[spartan99]

If they do re license the name to someone then my plan would go straight into the shitter....

You'd probably be fine. Many pipe smokers would immediately declare the new version far inferior to the previous one and begin seeking old tins.

 

[deathmetal]

A world without Royal Yacht is simply an empty ball of dust spinning in space.
I hope they reconsider.

 

[deathmetal]

Oh look! A contact form. Here's my letter:

Howdy,
I understand that you own the Dunhill brand of pipe tobacco. I also understand that it seems less prestigious and sells less than other products in the Dunhill line.
I would like to appeal to your better common sense. Pipe smoking, cigar smoking, fountain pens, fine clothing, firearms, outdoor sports, and fine arts cluster around the audience you desire: the intelligent, educated, relatively wealthy and independent person.
The Dunhill brand of pipe tobacco is a flagship for everything you represent, ESPECIALLY as pipe smoking is reserved for the thoughtful few and invisible to the masses.
I hope that you will continue this excellent line of tobaccos.

Maybe they will see the light.

 

[deathmetal]

Related threads:
http://pipesmagazine.com/forums/topic/end-of-dunhill-tobaccos

http://pipesmagazine.com/forums/topic/dunhill-to-stop-selling-pipe-tobacco

http://pipesmagazine.com/forums/topic/dunhill-tobaccos-discontinued-at-least-in-the-netherlands-and-perhaps-elsewhere

http://pipesmagazine.com/forums/topic/dunhill-pipe-tobacco-a-message-from-stg-lane