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steveg11

Starting to Get Obsessed
Sep 7, 2011
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near Philadelphia, PA, USA
Broken Pipe from Philadelphia, PA. Had a large (~50) collection of quarter bent, diamond shanked, saddle bit bulldogs. Each from a different pipe maker. Many made expressly for his collection. Used to show his collection at early CORPS shows in Richmond, VA. He won many awards. Greatly missed.
 

ssjones

Moderator
Staff member
May 11, 2011
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15,659
Covington, Louisiana
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Broken Pipe from Philadelphia, PA. Had a large (~50) collection of quarter bent, diamond shanked, saddle bit bulldogs. Each from a different pipe maker. Many made expressly for his collection. Used to show his collection at early CORPS shows in Richmond, VA. He won many awards. Greatly missed.
Was he a member of the Morley Pipe Club in Philly? When did he pass?
 
Jun 9, 2015
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Mission, Ks
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Here’s a weird one. It’s a large billiard. White clover atop the stem. Stamps read: Monterrey Drinkless Kaywoodie. Shape is 3 31.
Stinger is cut and appears permanently welded to the mortise fitting.
I’m thinking maybe a 90s or 2000s homage to early models?

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1943-46 Monterey’s were made from California Mission Briar (manzanita) during the WWII briar shortage.
 
Jun 9, 2015
4,198
26,476
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Mission, Ks
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Yeah, but the couple I’ve had weren’t stamped Drinkless or Kaywoodie. They didn’t sport a clover either.
Yeah, early on in the wartime briar shortage things like aluminum for stingers and plastic for clovers was not in short supply yet but as the war went on those things started drying up as well. When that happened they started doing away with stingers and logos. I suspect your pipe is an early production Monterey. As for the stamping, labor was also in short supply so they started eliminating production steps as well.
 

xrundog

Lifer
Oct 23, 2014
2,284
24,999
Ames, IA
Yeah, early on in the wartime briar shortage things like aluminum for stingers and plastic for clovers was not in short supply yet but as the war went on those things started drying up as well. When that happened they started doing away with stingers and logos. I suspect your pipe is an early production Monterey. As for the stamping, labor was also in short supply so they started eliminating production steps as well.
That’s a plausible explanation. I’m not sure I like it, but the truth is that we don’t really know what those old timers were up to. Any opinion on the 3 digit right shank
3 31 stamp? The actual shape is more like an 07 or 11.