On Hipsters

[deathmetal]

That all behavior should be acceptable?

That is throughout human history the most popular view. If you add "and no one should face the consequences of his actions or feel responsibility for them," you have a formula for perfect popularity.

 

[fishingandpipes]

...and not once, not one single time, was it ever brought up whether a hipster would consider a hamburger a sandwich or whether chili was a soup.

I'm glad someone remembers this discussion

 

[fishingandpipes]

also burgers aren't sandwiches

 

[deathmetal]

Burgers are steaks for kids

 

[deathmetal]

Hamburger Beermaster.

 

[mayfair70]

IMO both hamburgers and hotdogs are sandwiches.

be permitted to wear Lycra in public? Black socks with Bermudas? Paisley and plaid?

These are unacceptable. It is akin to eyeball murder, or at the very least, assault.

 

[deathmetal]

Socks with sandals = the death of western civilization.

 

[yaddy306]

Will a mod please put this thread out of its misery already?

 

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[warren]

That was a breath of fresh air. Certainly cleared things up. Clear, concise and cogent. What we always expect from georged.

 

[deathmetal]

Still better than mainstream academia!

 

[mayfair70]

Whatever do you mean deathmetal? It is my understanding that American Institutions of Higher Learning are the pinnacle of knowledge and critical thinking for the western world. They are an efficient and interesting bureaucracy which rewards innovation and hard work and benefit citizens of all income levels and walks of life. :|

 

[deathmetal]

Heh! We all need research into the gender dynamics of footwear in classic literature.

 

[mayfair70]

https://books.google.com/books?id=IOmnbJRbx5cC&pg=PA15&lpg=PA15&dq=gender+dynamics+of+footwear+in+classic+literature&source=bl&ots=Oc9vS0nyut&sig=AOOJUwWbYJUpy0-5qQsAttK_xCI&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwi734mZ0JTMAhUjuIMKHYtPCnoQ6AEIHTAA#v=onepage&q=gender%20dynamics%20of%20footwear%20in%20classic%20literature&f=false

:twisted: :twisted: :twisted:

 

[mayfair70]

Thank You and Good Night !!

 

[deathmetal]

Ha! Exactly!
I am not anti-liberal arts, by a long shot. I just think they've been re-interpreted from a quest for truth to a quest to seem important by making trivial distinctions into broad statements.
Makes me miss the days of reading lots of great books for the first time. You can never re-capture the feeling of discovery, because now you know the path.

 

[georged]

expressed sarcastically:
It is my understanding that American Institutions of Higher Learning are the pinnacle of knowledge and critical thinking for the western world.

Absolutely true for science, technology, engineering, and math.
The problem is with non-quantifiable subjects where opinion, fashion, conjecture, politics, and outright bullshit are king because nothing that's asserted can be tested or disproved.
Degrees such as popular culture (Bowling Green State University), floral arrangement (Mississippi State), ecogastronomy (U. of New Hampshire), nannying (Sullivan University), or puppetry (U. of Connecticut) are worthless except as curiosity satisfiers. Why are they offered? Because the country has enough hope-filled, self-delusional people to create a market, and the $chool$ themselves be likin' the (virtually) pure profit opportunity such courses of "study" create.

 

[deathmetal]

The problem is with non-quantifiable subjects where opinion, fashion, conjecture, politics, and outright bullshit are king because nothing that's asserted can be tested or disproved.

This is a popular view, but I don't agree. The problem is that people subverted those disciplines by forcing on them not a reality-based standard, but a theory-based one where theory conflated to a certain range of ideologies.
Teach the books and ideas and you do fine; try to force an interpretation, and one creates an echo chamber for nonsense.
This applies for all values of "ideology."

 

[georged]

This is a popular view, but I don't agree. The problem is that people subverted those disciplines by forcing on them not a reality-based standard, but a theory-based one where theory conflated to a certain range of ideologies.
Teach the books and ideas and you do fine; try to force an interpretation, and one creates an echo chamber for nonsense.
This applies for all values of "ideology."

Huh? Please explain the difference between a "reality based standard" and a "theory based standard" for a non-quantifiable subject.
Choose any non-STEM degree program to illustrate. Please be specific.

 

[deathmetal]

Huh? Please explain the difference between a "reality based standard" and a "theory based standard" for a non-quantifiable subject.
Choose any non-STEM degree program to illustrate. Please be specific.

Let's talk about philosophy.
A reality-based standard consists of reading the great works to see what is being communicated.
A theory-based standard involves creating theories which support an existing narrative.
Is a book of highly structured logic quantifiable? Yes, but not in simplistic ways, and not by everyone.
You will notice that the top-ranked philosophy programs follow the former standard, while the also-rans, small private colleges, state schools and community colleges follow the latter.