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Sorry Nate.
I just thought the video was funny. I agree about having a separate section for such discussion. Banning such topics seems to work like prohibition did. It still sneaks in, sometimes under the radar.
Anyone have good tips for Lasagna ?? (with MEAT)
I just thought the video was funny. I agree about having a separate section for such discussion. Banning such topics seems to work like prohibition did. It still sneaks in, sometimes under the radar.
Anyone have good tips for Lasagna ?? (with MEAT)
Speaking if hipsters... I'm not much of a lasagna fan either.
It drives me crazy when people post links with no explanaition of what the link is. If the link is suposed to make a point, say what the point is, so that we get what yoi got out of the link. We all don't see the same things in a document. Sometimes I'll skim a link, and sometimes I just don't feel lile taking the time to skim. Otherwise, I'll just skip them.
Of course now that I've said what drives me crazy, everyone is going to post a link. :
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It drives me crazy when people post links with no explanaition of what the link is. If the link is suposed to make a point, say what the point is, so that we get what yoi got out of the link. We all don't see the same things in a document. Sometimes I'll skim a link, and sometimes I just don't feel lile taking the time to skim. Otherwise, I'll just skip them.
Of course now that I've said what drives me crazy, everyone is going to post a link. :
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Cosmic - I actually like a good lasagna. The emphasis being on the word "good." What I don't like is massed produced lasagna that comes frozen from the grocery. No matter how carefully it's cooked, it always comes out watery.
Obligatory link to drive Cosmic crazy (hint: it's about hipsters)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mHmxjWvs09o
Obligatory link to drive Cosmic crazy (hint: it's about hipsters)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mHmxjWvs09o
Ha ha!! Yeh, I don't hate... lasagna, but the doctor (cough cough... the wife) has me on a low carb diet, to keep me from dying sooner than expected. I have to keep telling myself that I hate pasta, I hate bread, I hate... cake. Uggg!! I'm not really fat, just getting old. We eat a meat, which means rabbit or fish. (I raise meat rabbits, and do quite a bit of fishing) so I forgo the chicken. Venison is ok also. But, one meat and greens for every meal almost. I do make the occasional chili and pizza, but it has to be those cracker thin pizza crusts. I made a wood fired oven to roast peppers in the fall and smoke butts, but I've had to start telling myself... I hate butts, I hate butts. New diets suck.
Cosmic, I feel your pain. I've had to seriously cut back on the beans, pasta, potatoes and rice because they make my blood sugar skyrocket. I've also cut out practically all soft drinks including diet (the diet sweeteners are actually worse for your body than sugar). On the other hand, I can eat whatever meat I want because I was gifted with perfect cholesterol and blood pressure.
You have to try some rabbit lasagna. It's good stuff. Another good lean meat people turn their noses up at is Nutria. It's about the same as eating rabbit because Nutria only eats live plants.
You have to try some rabbit lasagna. It's good stuff. Another good lean meat people turn their noses up at is Nutria. It's about the same as eating rabbit because Nutria only eats live plants.
I've not tried nutrina. I'm not opposed. They just don't live here. We also raise goats, but since we cut back the cheeses and milks, they've pretty much been pets since they stopped breeding. Old goats don't taste very good at all.
Gooing back to subcultures. I was just thinking this morning as I drove my youngest to school, it's only been since the 70's really since people started using music to define themselves. The 50's and 60's it happened a little, rock verses country, Stones verses Beatles. But, it was the 70's that the music genre was shattered into disco, funk, east coast and west coast rock, metal, hard rock, Southern rock, etc... It is as if the categories at the record store created genre specific fans.
Before that... before records, songs would stay on the charts for decades, even hundreds of years, because they traveled across the country as performers traveled, or the sheet music was distributed. To hear music you either went somewhere that had a piano or a performer, or you learned an instrument. And, genres were regional, because they developed in geographical isolation. You didn't have to "look" a certain way to sing, "By the light of the silvery moon..."
Then the 80's came the "look." MTV showed us how a metal head should dress, because fans could finally see what the hardcore kids in New York were doing. We saw punks, we saw rap, we saw whatever those Oingo Bunghole bands from over seas looked, we saw country on CMTV. Then came goth, in every little po-dunk city across the country. Emo or whatever. You'd see metalheads in their black shirts and tiedyes at the service station in a city that didn't even have grocery stores. Earrings in kids that lived on farms larger than city blocks. Kids would pick a genre of music and use that to define how they looked, talked and behaved, even though they didn't live anywhere near a place where punks, hippies, metalheads or emos dwelled.
Then hipsters. The guy who loads my lumber onto my truck has a beard, huge holes in his ears, and wears Atari shirts, sometimes with barrettes in his freakin' beard, ha ha. In a city that doesn't even have a coffeehouse.
While I think that most of us agree that the very fabric of society is under no threat from hipsters, it does amaze me that kids will find a type of music and then use that music and the "culture" around it to define who they are. It's like the most artificial thing in the world. Like as if someone started wearing spacesuits or crossdressing, IMO. There's really not much of a difference to me. I've been amazed at this since middle school. I don't disparage those who do this, but hopefully we all see how silly it all is to some of us. To make fun of hipsters, while choosing to only like some chosen genre of music is like even more odd... to me anyway. It's cool though. I wear a straw hat and smoke a pipe everywhere I go, so I am pretty weird too. ::
Before that... before records, songs would stay on the charts for decades, even hundreds of years, because they traveled across the country as performers traveled, or the sheet music was distributed. To hear music you either went somewhere that had a piano or a performer, or you learned an instrument. And, genres were regional, because they developed in geographical isolation. You didn't have to "look" a certain way to sing, "By the light of the silvery moon..."
Then the 80's came the "look." MTV showed us how a metal head should dress, because fans could finally see what the hardcore kids in New York were doing. We saw punks, we saw rap, we saw whatever those Oingo Bunghole bands from over seas looked, we saw country on CMTV. Then came goth, in every little po-dunk city across the country. Emo or whatever. You'd see metalheads in their black shirts and tiedyes at the service station in a city that didn't even have grocery stores. Earrings in kids that lived on farms larger than city blocks. Kids would pick a genre of music and use that to define how they looked, talked and behaved, even though they didn't live anywhere near a place where punks, hippies, metalheads or emos dwelled.
Then hipsters. The guy who loads my lumber onto my truck has a beard, huge holes in his ears, and wears Atari shirts, sometimes with barrettes in his freakin' beard, ha ha. In a city that doesn't even have a coffeehouse.
While I think that most of us agree that the very fabric of society is under no threat from hipsters, it does amaze me that kids will find a type of music and then use that music and the "culture" around it to define who they are. It's like the most artificial thing in the world. Like as if someone started wearing spacesuits or crossdressing, IMO. There's really not much of a difference to me. I've been amazed at this since middle school. I don't disparage those who do this, but hopefully we all see how silly it all is to some of us. To make fun of hipsters, while choosing to only like some chosen genre of music is like even more odd... to me anyway. It's cool though. I wear a straw hat and smoke a pipe everywhere I go, so I am pretty weird too. :
:-subcultures have fashions
-not everyone likes the look of some subcultures.
-many don't give a hoot what other people do or wear.
That should wrap up the issue. Let's chat about tobacco. Seriously, some of you must really hate dead horses.
-not everyone likes the look of some subcultures.
-many don't give a hoot what other people do or wear.
That should wrap up the issue. Let's chat about tobacco. Seriously, some of you must really hate dead horses.
I seriously thought you guys were going to begin discussing bowel movements for a minute there. 
Music is just one way that popular culture has fractured since the seventies. Andy Warhol ensured that talentless hacks could make art. Punk rock and metal (for example) helped make sure talentless hacks could make music. Television made sure talentless hacks could become stars and politicians. What happened to learning a craft and then doing things because you were good at them?
Here's a unicorn pooping ice cream, just for Cosmic.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KlEovr29KBU
Music is just one way that popular culture has fractured since the seventies. Andy Warhol ensured that talentless hacks could make art. Punk rock and metal (for example) helped make sure talentless hacks could make music. Television made sure talentless hacks could become stars and politicians. What happened to learning a craft and then doing things because you were good at them?Here's a unicorn pooping ice cream, just for Cosmic.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KlEovr29KBU
damn, I had to delete my next post on bowel movements. Ha ha.
No, the great thing about when a post goes Starcat is that it allows us to discuss things with folks that may post in different areas of the forum. Plus, it's fun. Anyone want me to post a video of me singing Harvest Moon with my ukulele? I'll wear my hat.
No, the great thing about when a post goes Starcat is that it allows us to discuss things with folks that may post in different areas of the forum. Plus, it's fun. Anyone want me to post a video of me singing Harvest Moon with my ukulele? I'll wear my hat.
As for "beating a dead horse" feel free to not post or read this thread. Or is it read or post to this thread?
Not to be rude, but I have to agree. There are thousands of threads on tobacco to choose from. The last time I checked this was the "Occupy Hipster Thread" for recipes, financial matters and something else I don't remember.
I generally don't buy processed food. I make killer Italian style Lasagna from scratch. I'm now going to try a Mexican style layered dish. Thanks again for the post billkay, it was an inspiration.
Anyone have ideas for pickled herring? Aside from setting it on fire and laughing while watching it burn?
Are recipes forthcoming?
Even more, this thread was a "don't beat some guy up just because he has a beard; he may not be a hipster."
It's not against beating up hipsters. If that's your thing go for it.
It just asks that hipsters be identified correctly.
Here it is:
If you can't figure it out from that, I can't help you
As far as the accusations that hipsters smoke Royal Yacht, hah! If I had to be a hipster to smoke this most excellent of tobacco blends, I would... but since I do not, I will continue to enjoy it in curmudgeonly bliss.
I don't know if Jazz really defined a whole subculture. I'm sure that there were subcatagories of Jazz that had a lifestyle, and the heroine epidemic of the 20's and 30's definitely grasped hold of jazz. Flappers and hipsters/zootsuiters, sure.
The 70's is just when the phenomenah exploded and wasn't a big city thing. Even a dork working in a Mississippi gas station could have a mohawk and Sex Pistols shirt on. You really never saw zoot suiters up on Walton's Mountain, unless they were just passing through town.
And, I'm sorry, but anyone who uses a commercial music genre to define themself is a poser/poseur. I do not believe for one second that actual members of Motley Crue sleep in an alleyway every night worshiping the Devil any more than someone who wears their T-shirts.
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