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madmurdoc

Can't Leave
Dec 8, 2012
421
1
North Idaho
Like with any other trend, it is populated by humans. And humans can be decent, but can also be douchebags. Some of the nicest people I met during my time in the city were hipsters. But there are also the ones that look down on you if you're not as "cool" as them. The reason hipsterism as a whole has a bad rap is because the ones that are pricks are the ones that always constantly talk about it.
I've found that the evil hipsters are the ones that constantly talk about how hipster they are. Trying hard to label themselves as a hipster, and make sure you know it. The cool ones will probably never even utter the word hipster, because the label doesn't matter, they just are what they are.
Just my thoughts on it.

 

madmurdoc

Can't Leave
Dec 8, 2012
421
1
North Idaho
What makes a kid in girl pants a bigger threat?
The hate on hipsters as a whole is unwarranted, but it's not hard to see how it came around. The ones that self identify as hipsters are generally, snarky, obnoxious, and judgmental. So naturally these traits are fitted to hipsters as a whole instead of just that group of hipsters.
It's the difference between the people that proselytize, and the people that just do their own thing.
So I guess people think it's a threat just because there aren't as many young kids clamoring to get into Wall Street, as there are hipsters coming out of college. Wall Street is the old threat, hipsters are the new?

 

madmurdoc

Can't Leave
Dec 8, 2012
421
1
North Idaho
But, there are just as many people headed to Wall Street. Don't think for a second that the young are all without aspirations. We just see the hipsters more, because they stand out.
Ah yeah, that's likely what it is. :puffpipe:

 

warren

Lifer
Sep 13, 2013
12,277
18,237
Foothills of the Chugach Range, AK
cosmic: That's an easy one. Older folk usually envy, some resent, the young their youth and freedom from worry. It's all ahead of them and in my rear view mirror. I envy their youth, I do not begrudge it though. Well, not much. I believe youth is wasted on the young.

 

deathmetal

Lifer
Jul 21, 2015
7,714
35
I've heard that before. It's almost not fair: to have youth, but not yet the experience to make sense of it. Reminds me of On The Road.

 

deathmetal

Lifer
Jul 21, 2015
7,714
35
I didn't get into it, but didn't hate it. I'm more of a Naked Lunch and Desolation Angels kind of reader.

 

mayfair70

Lifer
Sep 14, 2015
1,968
3
"Some junkie cut my cocaine with sani-flush"
"I once performed an appendectomy with a rusty sardine can"

 

beefeater33

Lifer
Apr 14, 2014
4,222
6,676
Central Ohio
Never read Desolation Angels, but Dylan's Desolation Row is one of the finest songs I ever heard...... Not sure if Hipster's approve........ :D

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AL1HUsJJCzU

 

cobguy

Lifer
Oct 18, 2013
3,742
17
I'm more of a Naked Lunch and Desolation Angels kind of reader.
Enjoyed Naked Lunch as well ... how about Ginsberg's Howl? Drunken angst was never so readable.

 

deathmetal

Lifer
Jul 21, 2015
7,714
35
Hmm...
Dr. Benway had been called in as advisor to the Freeland Republic, a place given over to free love and continual bathing. The citizens are well adjusted, co- operatives, honest, tolerant and above all clean. But the invoking of Benway indicates all is not well behind that hygienic faqade: Benway is a manipulator and coordinator of symbol systems, an expert on all phases of interrogation, brainwashing and control. I have not seen Benway since his precipitate departure from Annexia, where his assignment had been T.D.-Total Demoralization. Benway's first act was to abolish concentration camps, mass arrest and, except under certain limited and special circumstances, the use of torture.
"I deplore brutality," he said. "It's not efficient. On the other hand, prolonged mistreatment, short of physical violence, gives rise, when skillfully applied, to anxiety and a feeling of special guilt. A few rules or rather guiding principles are to be borne in mind. The subject must not realize that the mistreatment is a deliberate attack of an anti-buman enemy on his personal identity. He must be made to feel that he deserves any treatment he receives because there is something (never specified) horribly wrong with him. The naked need of the control addicts must be decently covered by an arbitrary and intricate bureaucracy so that the subject cannot contact his enemy direct."
Of course the Annexia police processed suspected agents, saboteurs and political deviants on an assembly basis. As regards the interrogation of suspects, Benway has this to say:
"While in general I avoid the use of torutre-- torture locates the opponent and mobilizes resistance --the threat of torture is useful to induce in the subject the appropriate feeling of helplessness and gratitude to the interrogator for withholding it. And torture can be employed to advantage as a penalty when the subject is far enough along with the treatment to accept punishment as deserved. To this end I devised several forms of disciplinary procedure. One was known as The Switchboard. Electric drills that can be turned on at any time are clamped against the subject's teeth; and he is instructed to operate an arbitrary switchboard, to put certain connections in certain sockets in response to bells and lights. Every time he makes a mistake the drills are turned on for twenty seconds. The signals are gradually speeded up beyond his reaction time. Half an hour on the switchboard and the subject breaks down like an overloaded thinking machine.
Seems relevant of late.

 

pappymac

Lifer
Feb 26, 2015
3,542
5,012
Slidell, LA
I don't hate hipsters. I find them amusing.
I don't envy the youth because mine has passed. I pray that they do as well as I did and survive their youth.
If, as a youth, I knew what I know now then I would have made worse mistakes because I would not have made some of the decisions nor have some of the experiences that I did.

 

deathmetal

Lifer
Jul 21, 2015
7,714
35
If, as a youth, I knew what I know now then I would have made worse mistakes because I would not have made some of the decisions nor have some of the experiences that I did.
Sounds like a great sci-fi story... a time loop.
Hipster humor:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vRlBtabKRFM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TBb9O-aW4zI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LVylJLQn4vI

 

mso489

Lifer
Feb 21, 2013
41,210
60,609
If I were in my twenties and knew that I could addle my elders (without losing my job or my relationship and friendships) by buying a few clothes and affecting a few behaviors, I guess I wouldn't miss the opportunity ... assuming I could figure out which clothes and manners would do the trick. The main thing is, at a certain age, you want to distinguish yourself from the older adult populations, to prove that you aren't under the heel of the past. Even when I was in the U.S. Navy, the most tradition bound of the branches of the U.S. military -- I jumped at the chance to wear a mustache and round glasses frames, just to not look quite so forlorn and subservient. My ship's executive officer, who happened to be from my hometown and a few years older (to no advantage to me) asked me if my glasses were prescription (they were) and then told me they really sucked. Had to keep the hair pretty short.

 
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