NYC Mayor Proposing Law to "Conceal" Tobacco Products in Stores

[neverknowsbest]

it is not about being liberal or conservative when it comes to our tobacco

I'm always strive for liberal helpings of tobacco. My wallet is the conservative one!

 

[zonomo]

I'm always strive for liberal helpings of tobacco. My wallet is the conservative one!

:rofl: Best comment of this thread....

 

[peckinpahhombre]

I have enjoyed this thread, and as head of the fan club everybody here gets a free shirt. Just PM me your address.

 

[4noggins]

Well, I guess I sure opened up another can of worms. I'll say it again. I do not agree with what Bloomberg has proposed. I was simply making note that many of the bashers are not familiar with the good the man has done, and I don't believe he deserves the negative comments because he has had a few bad ideas. That's all.
Yes, I am a liberal.....take me to the woodshed. Do as you please with me, but at least buy me dinner first.
That's all I have to say. Sorry some of you have misconstrued my intentions. No harm meant to anyone.
For those that are taking this way too personally and refuse to spend their hard earned money with me, I'm sorry you feel that way but that's your prerogative.
Mike...I still love ya and I'm not a member or the head of O's fan club.

peckinpahhombre....A most eloquent post, thanks.
Rich

4noggins.com

 

[peckinpahhombre]

For the 100s of folks PMing me their addresses, I was joking. If you want such a shirt you need to go buy it yourself.

 

[zonomo]

I have enjoyed this thread, and as head of the fan club everybody here gets a free shirt. Just PM me your address.

Haa haa. If I was caught wearing that shirt, those that know me would fall over dead from cardiac arrest. Tempting though.. :worship:

 

[Perique]

Hombre LOL.... Good one.

 

[drwatson]

Here is a thought about this, what if we are the problem more so, or atleast as much as the leaders? Left, right, middle...I think we may all agree that over the past few decades rights in some way shape or form are slowly getting taken away..Or also in many cases too many rights being allowed...If we could magically transport one of the founding fathers to now, I think they would be shocked at how all of us have screwd their work up.
Rich some of us may not agree with everything, But we still love that Bald Headed Teacher...no worries! :puffpipe:

 

[neverknowsbest]

Or also in many cases too many rights being allowed

Stop resisting! *THWACK* Stop Resisting! *THWACK*

 

[drwatson]

Mike you are so right! And what I mean BY that comment is-take for example England. I see these people there standing outside the the palace or where ever.. They hold signs saying they want to harm people death to england, just a bunch of poo. BUt their laws allow them to act like this. Hence to many rights...Sometimes I see that stuff starting over here

 

[joshwolftree]

This like many laws built to restrict access to products is a simple issue of trade off, it's trading the freedom from responsibility for another freedom, in this case it's freedom from the responsibility to make informed decisions for (yourself/your children) and the responsibility of teaching your children to make those decisions themselves, in exchange for the freedom to actually see the product you want to buy on the shelves of the store and the freedom of the store owner to carry and display products in the manner they wish. In some places pornographic magazines cannot be displayed on shelves, in others they must have a plastic bag which obscures the actual magazine. Again it's freedom from the responsibility of having to explain and discuss it with your own children, in exchange for the freedom to diplay it in a store.
Unfortunately, it is also a case of out of site out of mind mentality. Simply because a product is not visible does not mean it does not exist, measures like this only serve to create further issues, because once the product is available (in both cases here at 18 years of age) consumers are suddenly able to acquire something that all they know about is that it is a hidden secretive product, reserved for adults.
The actual solution is to bring back accountability both as individuals and as familial units. When I was young I lived on base, my dad was Air Force. My father was my sponsor. This means he assumed responsibility for my actions on base. If I did something illegal on base. I was charged as a juvenile offender, and my father was called in in front of his commander and chewed a new one. Then he came home and I was chewed a new one. As a result I didn't get caught doing anything illegal.

It's all about education...but we can't just rely on the schools for that, after all they are not the real world.

 

[zonomo]

The actual solution is to bring back accountability both as individuals and as familial units.

Amen. Thats starts with the man/woman who stare back at us in the mirror.

 

[instymp]

Mike, +1

I personally think we should bring up Religion next! :lol:

 

[4noggins]

Please, don't start me on that one!!!!!!

I won't have any customers left.....................
Rich

4noggins.com

 

[peckinpahhombre]

I strongly believe that religion is the opiate of the masses. I only hope Mayor Bloomberg can save us from it.
Discuss.

 

[4noggins]

Vice grips placed on lips.
Rich

 

[okrent]

I've always found metaphysics makes for better conversation than religion.

 

[joshwolftree]

I tend to avoid discussing religion in polite company. Unfortunately, y'all are far from polite company so I'll have to add another place to refrain from discussions of that nature

 

[peckinpahhombre]

How about women. Which are better - blondes or brunettes? In your response, please analogize to your favourite tobacco so as to successfully skirt (pun intended) forum rules.
EDIT: For female pipesters, please modify the question, mutatis mutandis, for your own preferences.

 

[instymp]

And like my respect for all personal opinions, I very much respect Religious views and beliefs. And not to flip someones beliefs to yours.

That shit causes wars!