What I find ironic is that all hospitals in Arizona have signs stating "No Tobacco Products" and yet they will prescribe a nicotine patch for you. The nicotine in the patch is extracted from tobacco. One set of rules for us - another set of rules for you...
No Smoking VA Medical Facilities
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Look, I’m talking about something more dumded down than that. If I want to smoke my pipe in my car between appointments, I’m not causing plastic or oxygen fueled fires! When I went to basic training the instructors would say.....”smokers fall out, all others get in the barracks and start cleaning the latrine”. I get it but damn they don’t prohibit your car idling more than 2 minutes or McDonald’s food for VA patients, all just as bad
Focus! We are discussing smoking prohibitions not eating or idling vehicles. Although, I'd be very interested in seeing come citations making comparasions of the individual risks of smoking versus fast foods or idling automobiles.
Here you go.. not saying I buy it. There's a doctor or a scientist willing to agree or disagree with anything if it promotes there agenda.
I think our friend is referring to risky behavior. That's where he his trying to make a comparison.
Car exhaust vs. secondhand smoke
You may have heard it during this year's debate about a Minneapolis smoking ban: "Ban smoking in bars and restaurants? Why don't you work on something more important -- like pollution from cars?"The smoking ban passed, but the question lingers: is outdoor exhaust worse
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Car fumes are killing us. So why isn’t anyone telling us not to drive? | Susanna Rustin
The health risks from vehicle air pollution are well known: heart attacks, strokes, lung cancer. It’s time to follow the mayor of Paris – and ban motorists when necessary
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The reason why it might be problematic if it's synthetic nicotine is, that all too often synthetic drugs carry many deadly side effects which are not present in the use of the natural (and unpatentable) natural one.
"Synthetic doesn't involve tobacco." The poster was speaking to "tobacco" prohibitions.
My mistake, I thought we were discussing tobacco usage. So conflate we will and damn a cogent discussion. I say tomatoes should be prohibited as everyone who eats a tomato today, will be dead by 2120. Risky behavior eating tomatoes is! Ban 'em! Snickers bars and Buffalo Wings too.
"The reason why it might be problematic if it's synthetic nicotine is, that all too often synthetic drugs carry many deadly side effects which are not present in the use of the natural (and unpatentable [sic]) natural one.''
Tobacco is really only dangerous when ignited and the carcinogens are absorbed. Granted, nicotine in the blood does displace oxygen which is not efficacious of course.
Regulations already exist prohibiting idling vehicles in certain weather. Vehicle prohibition also exists under certain climatic conditions in certain areas. Nothing new with that. But, the OP was addressing smoking, again I write "smoking", at VA facilities.
I suppose, as smoking is indefensible anywhere at anytime other than as a manifestation of the smoker's selfish choices, the scope of the discussion must be widened, sometimes into absurdity.
My mistake, I thought we were discussing tobacco usage. So conflate we will and damn a cogent discussion. I say tomatoes should be prohibited as everyone who eats a tomato today, will be dead by 2120. Risky behavior eating tomatoes is! Ban 'em! Snickers bars and Buffalo Wings too.
"The reason why it might be problematic if it's synthetic nicotine is, that all too often synthetic drugs carry many deadly side effects which are not present in the use of the natural (and unpatentable [sic]) natural one.''
Tobacco is really only dangerous when ignited and the carcinogens are absorbed. Granted, nicotine in the blood does displace oxygen which is not efficacious of course.
Regulations already exist prohibiting idling vehicles in certain weather. Vehicle prohibition also exists under certain climatic conditions in certain areas. Nothing new with that. But, the OP was addressing smoking, again I write "smoking", at VA facilities.
I suppose, as smoking is indefensible anywhere at anytime other than as a manifestation of the smoker's selfish choices, the scope of the discussion must be widened, sometimes into absurdity.
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