I will say is that the va hospital is not privately funded.. nor are really any hospitals. I hate smoking anyway.. I dont even know why I'm reading this website.
Exactly!!!! Here in Georgia, I can have a firearm in my car on public school campus because my car inside and out is private property! It’s illegal to remove the firearm from the car while on said property. Why the hell cant I smoke my pipe in my car on VA property.......it baffles the mind!The community college I went to (Class of '17) went smoke free three or four years ago, but stated something to the effect of "The inside of your vehicle is NOT college property. If you want to smoke inside your car, or even set up a lawn chair in the bed of your pickup truck to have a smoke, we're not going to bother you." Don't know if that's still the extent of their policy. Also don't know if that bit about vehicles is (or was?) something in Maine State Law.
I feel what you’re sayin but my “outrage” is pointed towards the slow but sure loss of my control of my life. Shall we all be told what time to go to the bathroom? If I want to slowly kill myself with smoking, drinking or using one ply toilet paper, that’s my choiceI guess I don't share the outrage about smoking in public especially in a health care facility.
Smoking is not popular and never will be again. If tobacco use were put to a popular vote we would loose. A lot of guys can't even enjoy a pipe in their homes and as I've read some must shower before they have family contact to avoid 3rd hand smoke. ?
Absolutely correct! Just do so in the privacy of your own home and do not violate any laws prohibiting suicide. If you do so you should be good to go. You'll be golden, in control of your life even more so than today's fighting personnel who are severely restricted as to where and when they can smoke.If I want to slowly kill myself with smoking, drinking or using one ply toilet paper, that’s my choice
So its open warfare on smokers? Figures...
Hiding under a rock. ? In truth I know the public has been this way for decades. I just never knew the military was at it till I started going to the vathe impact on employees is becoming minimal.. as they have not hired a tobacco user in over 10 years.
as far as 'open warfare' where have you been?
I agree 100% but, doesn’t mean I have to like itAbsolutely correct! Just do so in the privacy of your own home and do not violate any laws prohibiting suicide. If you do so you should be good to go. You'll be golden, in control of your life even more so than today's fighting personnel who are severely restricted as to where and when they can smoke.
Life can seem unfair and tough when you are living in a society of laws.
First of all, you are absolutely right about smoking rooms. Those may have been required when smoking was more common, but now smokers do not make up the majority of anyone's customer base.. not even bars. Warren has a great point about hospitals not condoning smoking. His comments are always very well written and he makes an undeniable point. Where is the line on that though? If you are 50 yards from the nearest person, for example you are in the far corner of the parking lot politely having a smoke.. If you make rules that also ban that, that's just too much. There are no medical or occupational concerns with smoking in the far corner of a parking lot. No smoking near the door.. no smoking within so many feet of walk ways.. no smoking inside ( obviously ). I doubt anyone has problems with these kind of rules.
As far as the subsidies go for the va facilities.. I have not been able to find how they are compensated for these kinds of polices. They may well be.. I sure hope not. We live in a time where so many risky behaviors are promoted by the federal government, with tolerance for any kind of freakish things being rubbed in our faces. Yet you are not allowed to smoke in the far corner of the parking lot. Maybe if you wore a dress and a turban then smoked on public property, you would be called the most inspiring symbol of diversity.
My point is.. we should all be against unnecessary rules/laws. We should find ways to live with our fellow man as opposed to finding justification for rules that impede his liberty.. simply because we don't have a need to smoke.
15% of the population smokes. In 2005 20%. Not as much change as some of these guys want you to belive. With the employment rate so high I bet they'll start hiring smokers.. wether they know it or not. If you think that any hospital has actually gone 10 years without hiring a smoker... geeze really. Sometimes I think there are Russians amongst us.
With the employment rate so high I bet they'll start hiring smokers.. wether(sic) they know it or not.
oxygen tents and stuff can be really volatile. Like you said it fuels other things that are on fire and if that's a patient especially one who needs extra oxygen to not die. It's kind of the total whole situation thing. Don't look at pictures of what can happen in those situations. Though you'd be surprised how many people do try to sneak a smoke in those places. And no it doesn't go up like they say but god damn do fires grow fast in that kind of environment and even healthy people don't need a fast growing plastic fire.This one always perplexes me. I have two medical grade oxy-cons that I use in metalsmithing, and tanks of oxygen. But, for the life of me I wonder what the big deal is. I can hold a lighter in front of the hose and never get it to burn in any way, hold my pipe or a cigar, nothing. It is used to increase the heat of other gases, like propane or acetylene, but by itself... doesn't burn or explode or anything. I'm not sure why all the warnings are felt to be so dire. Even the warning labels on them are much more prevalent than the propane and acetylene, which are much more dangerous. If the whole room was on fire, then yes, oxygen under pressure would be dangerous. But, for someone smoking or a fireplace, or even a campfire, it would do nothing at all.