Dunno man, the way I read it people born on or after Jan 1 2009 will never be legally able to buy tobacco. So how does it raise the age for legally buying tobacco?
New Zealand Passes Legislation Banning Cigarettes for Future Generations
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Make no mistake, the goal is to eradicate tobacco use in NZ. Over the course of the past 3 years governments have become far more bold in taking steps to limit the freedoms of their populations, and this is yet another example. This is frightening and we shouldn't ignore it because it's happening on the other side of the world. It's coming here next.
In the meantime they will sell you cannabis to dull your senses and make you numb to what is actually happening.
In the meantime they will sell you cannabis to dull your senses and make you numb to what is actually happening.
They will never be able to buy it as the legal age for purchasing tobacco will be raised each year.
Unless something has changed in the legislation over the last three months - quite possible, so I apologise for any confusion, as I haven’t reread it - it doesn’t deal with actual smoking, importing, growing but only purchasing, either for yourself or for someone who doesn’t meet the age requirements.
it looks like there may be some scope for gifting in some capacity.
While I agree with a lot of the sentiments in your post, I feel it worthwhile to add that (rightly or wrongly) by way of a public referendum a few years back, the decriminalisation of cannabis here in Aotearoa hasn’t occurred.
Also, this whole smoke free 2025 thing has been in the pipeline for ages.
It's this scenario that many people point to as the base case for using crypto currency.
If there is one thing i hate, it's when @georged is right. 
I keep waiting for a generation of youth that will actually rebel, but it seems to be a trait unique to the 50s and 60s kids. That said, I do seem to see more younger people smoking cigarettes again, and vaping is now so ubiquitous that I can't truly see smoking disappearing.
New Zealand is an interesting case as smoking rates are already incredibly low, matching a general western decline which I suspect doesn't have that much to do with anti smoking policies as people think; and it is also an island nation, meaning smuggling is much harder.
Link's such as this one will likely shock and outrage an international community of smokers like this, but for those of us in NZ it is such old news. 2025 has been the smokefree goal for as long as I can remember, and the smokefree campaign posters were up in my primary school in the 90's already, maybe even 80's?? Certainly well before I took up a pipe. This is not just some recent woke political agenda. Within the cultural context of my country as a whole I do not even really think of it as a negative move. I really enjoy growing my own.
How long until that's illegal too?
Pretty much. The counter culture of the 60s and 70s has turned into the establishment it fought against. I'll stop there and not derail the thread.
Yes, I am sure there are angles I could find to get worked up about, but then I would need to smoke more to relieve the stress of the situation, which would lead to my cellar diminishing at a faster rate...so I don't let it get to me.
Huh? With exchanges failing left and right, cryptobro scandals and on top of that, all transactions recorded on a public ledger? Sounds like the most restrictive system conceivable. Cash and only cash. If I wasn’t lazy I’d do everything with cash, but I am lazy and never have more than $10 (equivalent) on me.
Crypto can be used to purchase things without going through an exchange like FTX, Coinbase, Binance, etc. In fact, many of the true believers in crypto would never dream of putting their digital assets in someone else's hands.
Ironically the biggest advocate for removing the personal tax exemption provided for people processing their own homegrown tobacco here was Big Tobacco.
Doesn't surprise me a bit. The major corporations are as much a part of all our problems as government is...and the lines between the two are increasingly blurred...especially here in the U.S.
The merger of state and corporate power is a primary characteristic of fascism, but it doesn't seem to bother most of the people here who claim to be "anti-fascist"...therein lies the real irony.
I can’t recall where I read it, but I’m pretty sure Big Tobacco could bankrupt a small nation like ours. Given how quickly pro-vaping NZ society has become, both in government discourse and general visibility, someone is certainly making a killing.
We’ve come in a very peculiar situation in the western world were a lot of those who profess “freedoms” are actually constantly talking about restricting this or that, and those who actually live by it are seen as backward.
This scene I first saw when I was about 15, it stayed with me:
Off topic I know…
This scene I first saw when I was about 15, it stayed with me:
Off topic I know…
Though I generally love your posts, but I have to point out that this is exactly the same thinking that we hate from "them".