New Interview with Per G Jensen on Mac Baren's Demise

[lordofthepiperings]

I’m not sure if this is where Per was going because I don’t have the patience to listen to 1hr 20mins of interview just to find out what was said about Sykes, but I would LOVE to see Per hook up with C&D and do his own line of blends like the GL Pease blends.

 

[badbriar]

Why no mention of GL Pease blends? Are they to manufactured by C&D? GLP has many killer potent English / Lat blends!

 

[badbriar]

Personally, between C&D, GLP and HU - I'm pretty well set!

 

[Chasing Embers]

I think Island Gold / Mixture would be a winner in the US. It's rather impressive; not usually my kind of thing but it does what it set out to do.

The Caribbean Blue line would suit you well.

 

[swan]

Why no mention of GL Pease blends? Are they to manufactured by C&D? GLP has many killer potent English / Lat blends!

Yes they are manufactured by C&D

I’m not sure if this is where Per was going because I don’t have the patience to listen to 1hr 20mins of interview just to find out what was said about Sykes, but I would LOVE to see Per hook up with C&D and do his own line of blends like the GL Pease blends.

That is exactly what he announced

On another note as the owner of the channel and host of the interview, I am glad you found the content informative and that you enjoyed it. More to come!

 

[JoburgB2]

Per Jensen is an entertaining interviewee. And as a blender is brimming with ingenuity.

 

[AndyNJ]

The danish could never reach some of the GLP magic, we are lucky to have it.

 

[OverMountain]

Actually not the case - we produce many ribbon cuts and shag tobaccos and RYO. In fact in the UK and other markets these make up a far greater percentage of our sales than flakes, plugs and twists. Again the world is much bigger than just the USA!

Give us back the SAWSE!

 

[HammerandPipe]

Thought it was a great interview. I for one dont need to boycott anyone as nothing STG offers is what I give a shit about anyways. Most of what I have is C&D and boutique blends. Ill keep reminding myself I need more even if that means having a few weeks of rat burgers.

 

[NookersTheCat]

Not gonna happen. I'm not knocking C&D and I know a lot of people like their style, but I'm not one of them. I'm not going to stop smoking GH, Dan, or Kopp just to "buy American." Small businesses in other countries need support, too.

Again I feel like people are seriously missing the point of what I'm saying here lol.
I smoke almost no C&D and I'm avid free-market. My point is where the money is going. If you know anything about commodity based businesses very little of the retail price goes to the producer. It's mostly everything in between.

After the dust settles from this there are basically gonna be 2 websites (the major way most of us buy our stuff) left in the entire U.S. for buying pipe tobacco. (Put places like Boswell's to the side for argument, they're *essentially* a B&M)
Those 2 websites are gonna be SmokingPipes, and Pipes&Cigars. Period.

If you love your Gawith Hogarth, awesome! They're basically what's looking to be my favourite producer (someone who actually MANUFACTURES tobacco) after this too. Buy them from SmokingPipes. Buy everything that isn't Boswell* (*Read ALL B&M's) from SmokingPipes!

Because after this SmokingPipes is gonna have literally everything that Pipes&Cigars has, plus C&D. There will be literally no other differentiating factor other than price and customer service, STG has made sure of that! There will be no blend at P&C you can't get at SP. P&C will employe a skeleton crew with crap customer support that sends all profits to Denmark.

So all I'm saying is WHATEVER you buy, buy it at the place that is based here. That creates real jobs here. That gives good prompt customer service here. That supports the last tobacco producer left here. That risks developing the last new innovative products/blends allowed to be produced (by our stupid laws) here. That sends out Christmas cards here. And maybe even consider doing so if it costs ya a few extra cents per ounce of that imported blend you love so much.

At least that's what I'll be doing...

 

[lazar]

Again I feel like people are seriously missing the point of what I'm saying here lol.
I smoke almost no C&D and I'm avid free-market. My point is where the money is going. If you know anything about commodity based businesses very little of the retail price goes to the producer. It's mostly everything in between.

After the dust settles from this there are basically gonna be 2 websites (the major way most of us buy our stuff) left in the entire U.S. for buying pipe tobacco. (Put places like Boswell's to the side for argument, they're *essentially* a B&M)
Those 2 websites are gonna be SmokingPipes, and Pipes&Cigars. Period.

If you love your Gawith Hogarth, awesome! They're basically what's looking to be my favourite producer (someone who actually MANUFACTURES tobacco) after this too. Buy them from SmokingPipes. Buy everything that isn't Boswell* (*Read ALL B&M's) from SmokingPipes!

Because after this SmokingPipes is gonna have literally everything that Pipes&Cigars has, plus C&D. There will be literally no other differentiating factor other than price and customer service, STG has made sure of that! There will be no blend at P&C you can't get at SP. P&C will employe a skeleton crew with crap customer support that sends all profits to Denmark.

So all I'm saying is WHATEVER you buy, buy it at the place that is based here. That creates real jobs here. That gives good prompt customer service here. That supports the last tobacco producer left here. That risks developing the last new innovative products/blends allowed to be produced (by our stupid laws) here. That sends out Christmas cards here. And maybe even consider doing so if it costs ya a few extra cents per ounce of that imported blend you love so much.

At least that's what I'll be doing...

Okay, yeah, I'd rather buy from SP and small businesses than P&C for a variety of reasons. Especially selection. P&C's already sucks and will probably now get worse. And their customer service is awful. But I'm just as likely to buy from Esterval's. I'm a poor excuse for an American, though. I don't see why I should prioritize American jobs over German or British or whatever other jobs, just because I happen to live here. If I could buy from e-tailers based in developing countries, that would be a different story.

 

[NookersTheCat]

But I'm just as likely to buy from Esterval's. I'm a poor excuse for an American, though. I don't see why I should prioritize American jobs over German or British or whatever other jobs, just because I happen to live here. If I could buy from e-tailers based in developing countries, that would be a different story.

Yeah I mostly agree with all that. My difference would be while I'd say I don't believe anyone should be forced to support American jobs (especially if the quality of their output is inferior) tho I personally believe if at all possible/reasonably convenient, one should. I do have a sense of patriotism but also that (as we are seeing now in many other sectors of our economy) efficiency isn't everything, that the trait of *resiliency* should also be weighed into the equation... esp as times become more turbulent.

And WOW!! I'd never heard of Esterval's before or know that was even possible. I thank you, sir (PS my bank account and therefore girlfriend now hate you)

 

[Jacob74]

In other news, Per is transforming into Julemanden.

 

[BingBong]

The Caribbean Blue line would suit you well.

I see that there's a 6x 10g sampler of that range available - might pick that up next time, just for fun.

 

[Stah]

My two cents.

Personally, I don't care about Per's call to boycott STG - they already boycott me, denying supply and delivery to my country (MB/Sutliff do/did the same, BTW) and I used the smuggler's channel to get STG/MB/B&M production, when I needed. So, I am C&D/Kopp oriented. However, there's some interesting points of interview (and questions) for me.

First of all, it's B&M destiny. I wonder will they use STG blending components, C&D components or some other. I ordered some blending tobacco for my personal blends from P&C site. I suppose, it's STG production, and it's not bad, except Red VA (I miss 515 and TS1R badly, which were swept out from shelves). I also found C&D Long Cut Perique more suitable for me than Sutliff. To my luck, I have enough.

Second thing is these Per's negotiations and collab with Gladora. Their Turkish Latakia blends (Latakia 40 and Latakia 20) are rude, but remind me some Syrian Latakia. They produce Latakia from Izmir oriental, so it is not exact copy of Syrian, anyway - but it's not bad, Yolanda and Bitlis orientals are really something, I use Gladora Oriental Flake as support to blending so-called 'Turkish Orientals' of Sutliff and C&D. It's not musty, it brings buttery and bright spicy tones to my blends, sometimes compared to my favourite Yenije. Gladora have no good VA so far, and that is a real problem for them, but if they find the sources even for sun-cured Virginia and buy some flue-cured from Malawi, i.e. - it will be very interesting, I presume. Jensen knows some tricks about Virginia, relying on his past (HH series developement and his practice at SG factory). To my sorrow, his first new collab blends will go to Switzerland and China, but, I hope, time will come.

Third thing is his words about Germain's possible expansion. Definitely, I'd love to have more Germain's blends on sale, cause now it's almost impossible to grab.

Another thing is SPC future. If C&D will start to produce Plum Pudding, it will be great. Indeed, I'd like to have their 'Lane era' blends, but we have what we have.

 

[dog_park_piper]

Basically my read (as someone who's relatively neutral on Laudisi) is that after this, if you're an American, only ever buy from smokingpipes or your local B&M's/small internet blenders ever. Because as we we're finding out, when it comes to producers now, you basically have C&D, STG, GH, KOPP (not even fully independent from STG) and that's essentially it.

So whatever you buy that isn't C&D is gonna be made from outside of the US anyway... and since there won't be anything unique offered by anyone else (P&C basically) keep the money going to the last single US "producer/factory" and small US blenders left.

Let’s not disregard Daughter’s and Ryan. Alternatively, whole leaf tobacco isn’t exactly a blend but it’s a fine smoke.

 

[NookersTheCat]

Let’s not disregard Daughter’s and Ryan. Alternatively, whole leaf tobacco isn’t exactly a blend but it’s a fine smoke.

Well really you mean Inter-Continental Trading, USA Corporation. D&R is now essentially just one of their brands along with OHM etc. But sure, fair point, they are also a producer I suppose. Just that I don't know many people that actually put OHM in their pipe haha

 

[dog_park_piper]

Well really you mean Inter-Continental Trading, USA Corporation. D&R is now essentially just one of their brands along with OHM etc. But sure, fair point, they are also a producer I suppose. Just that I don't know many people that actually put OHM in their pipe haha

Hold the phone. OHM it may be, but Daughters & Ryan is real quality.

 

[fireground_piper]

Again I feel like people are seriously missing the point of what I'm saying here lol.
I smoke almost no C&D and I'm avid free-market. My point is where the money is going. If you know anything about commodity based businesses very little of the retail price goes to the producer. It's mostly everything in between.

After the dust settles from this there are basically gonna be 2 websites (the major way most of us buy our stuff) left in the entire U.S. for buying pipe tobacco. (Put places like Boswell's to the side for argument, they're *essentially* a B&M)
Those 2 websites are gonna be SmokingPipes, and Pipes&Cigars. Period.

If you love your Gawith Hogarth, awesome! They're basically what's looking to be my favourite producer (someone who actually MANUFACTURES tobacco) after this too. Buy them from SmokingPipes. Buy everything that isn't Boswell* (*Read ALL B&M's) from SmokingPipes!

Because after this SmokingPipes is gonna have literally everything that Pipes&Cigars has, plus C&D. There will be literally no other differentiating factor other than price and customer service, STG has made sure of that! There will be no blend at P&C you can't get at SP. P&C will employe a skeleton crew with crap customer support that sends all profits to Denmark.

So all I'm saying is WHATEVER you buy, buy it at the place that is based here. That creates real jobs here. That gives good prompt customer service here. That supports the last tobacco producer left here. That risks developing the last new innovative products/blends allowed to be produced (by our stupid laws) here. That sends out Christmas cards here. And maybe even consider doing so if it costs ya a few extra cents per ounce of that imported blend you love so much.

At least that's what I'll be doing...

There are a number of online retailers, run by small independent families around the country.

 

[NookersTheCat]

There are a number of online retailers, run by small independent families around the country.

I only mostly know of the ones that are also B&M/Blenders like I mentioned to put on the side for my argument's sake. Ones like Boswell, LJ Peretti, Country Squire, WV Smokeshop, Watch City Cigar, etc) that all make their own unique blends. Like my argument implied, buy from them too. Sure, if there's other small ones I missed that don't produce blends but just retail then fine, buy from them too.

Again, my point is being missed or nit-picked. I'm suggesting don't support the direct retail arm of STG which has already proven for years its gross incompetence in serving the customer when there's going to be 0 reason to going forward (it used to be because they had unique products.. other than Stanwell pipes now going forward, they will not)