Logos Matter

[sardonicus87]

The Rattray pipe I looked at yesterday, even the triskelion being big on the stem wasn't nearly as offensive as the stamping on the shank. Many pipes have the brand stamped there, but it's almost not noticeable unless you get the light at just the right angle. The Rattray pipe I saw, it was a blond colored pipe and the stamp not only took up the entire shank, but was also burned/darkened to make it stand out. To me, that was more aesthetically offensive than the size of their triskelion logo on the stem.

However, some might not find that to be too displeasing on the eye. Good for them. And I've seen plenty of other Rattray's that don't have a highly noticeable stamp like this, I'm not trying to dump specifically on their pipes. They certainly have many where the shank stamping isn't noticeable and even the triskele is cut into the metal band and is subtle rather than being stamped on the black stem with a high contrast silver color.

The pipe in question:

 

[vosBghos]

Are you thinking of the L'Anatra duck? Correct me if not. But I almost mentioned this pipe earlier. I can't stand raised objects on the stems (gems, beads, etc) but the duck surprisingly doesn't bother me

Gems are indeed the worst

 

[vosBghos]

The Rattray pipe I looked at yesterday, even the triskelion being big on the stem wasn't nearly as offensive as the stamping on the shank. Many pipes have the brand stamped there, but it's almost not noticeable unless you get the light at just the right angle. The Rattray pipe I saw, it was a blond colored pipe and the stamp not only took up the entire shank, but was also burned/darkened to make it stand out. To me, that was more aesthetically offensive than the size of their triskelion logo on the stem.

However, some might not find that to be too displeasing on the eye. Good for them. And I've seen plenty of other Rattray's that don't have a highly noticeable stamp like this, I'm not trying to dump specifically on their pipes. They certainly have many where the shank stamping isn't noticeable and even the triskele is cut into the metal band and is subtle rather than being stamped on the black stem with a high contrast silver color.

The pipe in question:

C’mon can we all agree or at least begin to see what I’m talking about with this fine example of ,,,man oh man what is going on here? ?

 

[Searock Fan]

I've had a couple of guys (and one ditsy woman) ask me if the "diamond" on the stem of my Castello was real. My answer was always "Yes. It did add $1,000 to the price of the pipe, but I think it was worth it, don't you?" I love the expression on their faces....

 

[sardonicus87]

C’mon can we all agree or at least begin to see what I’m talking about with this fine example of ,,,man oh man what is going on here? ?

No I definitely see where you're coming from now.

And like I said before, although the function of being a pipe good smoker is most important and the main goal, at least for me, is the enjoyment of smoking and so the tobacco is far more important than that...

If I have a choice between two pipes that function exactly the same and smoke the same and are the same or similar in price but one looks better than the other, I am going with the better looking one.

And I agree, even if I am not putting my pipes on display, and I'm not sitting around and ogling them, especially not while in the process of smoking, there's still no good reason to not take aesthetics into account in addition to everything else. Kind of like when some women say they're wearing makeup and their chosen outfit because they want to look good for themselves rather than doing it to look good for other people or attention.

Now sure, if I was buying a pipe that was meant for pure utility, like a daily pocket bang-around or travel pipe, then yeah I don't care at all about aesthetics at that point.

And while I agree with you, I don't necessarily disagree with others who don't care what it looks like as long as it smokes good. To each their own, I just don't think it's dumb if someone wants to consider the aesthetics in addition to the functionality, and I don't think it's dumb if someone doesn't care about the aesthetics. And if a bold logo is antithetical to your aesthetic tastes, there's nothing wrong with that.

 

[Chasing Embers]

C’mon can we all agree or at least begin to see what I’m talking about with this fine example of ,,,man oh man what is going on here? ?

Pipe smokers rarely agree on anything.

 

[Chasing Embers]

The pipe in question:

Looks great to me.

 

[warren]

C’mon can we all agree or at least begin to see what I’m talking about with this fine example of ,,,man oh man what is going on here?

I'd just avoid purchasing a pipe which had anything about it that disgusted me. I certainly wouldn't develop any angst about such a pipe. Seems to be a waste of emotion.

 

[vosBghos]

No I definitely see where you're coming from now.

And like I said before, although the function of being a pipe good smoker is most important and the main goal, at least for me, is the enjoyment of smoking and so the tobacco is far more important than that...

If I have a choice between two pipes that function exactly the same and smoke the same and are the same or similar in price but one looks better than the other, I am going with the better looking one.

And I agree, even if I am not putting my pipes on display, and I'm not sitting around and ogling them, especially not while in the process of smoking, there's still no good reason to not take aesthetics into account in addition to everything else. Kind of like when some women say they're wearing makeup and their chosen outfit because they want to look good for themselves rather than doing it to look good for other people or attention.

Now sure, if I was buying a pipe that was meant for pure utility, like a daily pocket bang-around or travel pipe, then yeah I don't care at all about aesthetics at that point.

And while I agree with you, I don't necessarily disagree with others who don't care what it looks like as long as it smokes good. To each their own, I just don't think it's dumb if someone wants to consider the aesthetics in addition to the functionality, and I don't think it's dumb if someone doesn't care about the aesthetics. And if a bold logo is antithetical to your aesthetic tastes, there's nothing wrong with that.

 

[vosBghos]

Agree on all points , funny how far this thread has gone , but hey , it’s what we do ?

 

[vosBghos]

I'd just avoid purchasing a pipe which had anything about it that disgusted me. I certainly wouldn't develop any angst about such a pipe. Seems to be a waste of emotion.

Certainly not emotional, just a bit yappin about pipes

 

[sablebrush52]

starting to see why “ the white dot” has so much appeal. You have to give it to Dunhill on minimalist design, utilitarian, functional, beautiful…

Dunhill did this because they considered their clientele too stupid to know which side was up.

Which other logos did you find so distracting that they dissuaded you from purchasing a particular pipe?

 

[Richmond B. Funkenhouser]

Bing Crosby was no more of a golfer than Charles Barkley.

 

[vosBghos]

Dunhill did this because they considered their clientele too stupid to know which side was up.

Which other logos did you find so distracting that they dissuaded you from purchasing a particular pipe?

See the Rattray’s above, just stuff like that , I didn’t think this thread would go so far , we all got different aesthetics. Mainly too much busyness with logos darkened stamps stuff that draws the eye away from the whole form and cheapens the overall look of the piece…

 

[sandollars]

I like Logos if they look like they have been installed with care using quality materials. To me, it indicates that the maker takes pride in the smallest details.

Some examples of good quality logos:

Lee Von Erck
ArdorCastello
Dunhill
Don Carlos
SOME Petersons
Ser Jacopo
SOME Stanwells
Vintage Kaywoodies
and so on...

The above examples are inlays and they add to the look of the pipe and indicate pride in manufacture.

What I can't abide are STAMPED logos with foil and a heat source. They look so cheap. With the exception of Mark Tinsky, all stamp logo pipes would look much better without.

Of course, this all MHO...

 

[Richmond B. Funkenhouser]

A lot of people bought that golf logo Bing and have now come here to defend the purchase.

 

[AppalachianPipe92]

I like Logos if they look like they have been installed with care using quality materials. To me, it indicates that the maker takes pride in the smallest details.

Some examples of good quality logos:

Lee Von Erck
ArdorCastello
Dunhill
Don Carlos
SOME Petersons
Ser Jacopo
SOME Stanwells
Vintage Kaywoodies
and so on...

The above examples are inlays and they add to the look of the pipe and indicate pride in manufacture.

What I can't abide are STAMPED logos with foil and a heat source. They look so cheap. With the exception of Mark Tinsky, all stamp logo pipes would look much better without.

Of course, this all MHO...

I also like the Jacono logo, very similar to the Castello.

 

[AppalachianPipe92]

Surprised we've yet to ruminate about the Lee pipes logo.

 

[Richmond B. Funkenhouser]

Surprised we've yet to ruminate about the Lee pipes logo.

@Briar Lee

 

[jpberg]

Surprised we've yet to ruminate about the Lee pipes logo.

I’ve heard those were the finest pipes you could buy, except for Kaywoodies, or something, at some point.