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Just Noticed an Excise Tax on my Orders!?
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Quick look and Dept of Health states; “The Department of Health recommends that the designated area for smoking be located in an area away from building entrances, windows or openings, and have appropriate containers for ash and cigarette disposal.” That being said it just needs to be 20’ away from openings and it seems legal.
I haven’t read what excise tax is paid if buying out of state, the state sending or receiving. As for smoking in restaurants, I’m not a fan. I would like to see lighter/simpler licensing for tobacconist to be able to actually smoke pipes or cigars inside new B&M shops.
Here’s the horrible penalty for violation of the Missouri Clean Air Act
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Enforcement of this law is described in Section 191.773 with a penalty of an infraction for persons found guilty of violating this law. The penalty for an infraction is a fine up to $200 for an individual and up to $500 for a corporation. Enforcement authority rests upon local prosecutors
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The realty is the owner of a Missouri business decides if more customers are offended by smoking or more by absence of ashtrays.
And tobacco shops with gross sales of over 50% tobacco products are exempt.
Why don’t more tobacco online retailers move here?
My guess is Missouri would impose their ten per cent tax even on online sellers shipping out of state.
As a result, about every little town offers a pack of Half and Half for $3.49 and cheap cigarettes for $2 a pack, in at least one bricks and mortar retail store, alongside cheap booze. Every gas station sells 99 cent airline bottles of name brand booze, too.
I’m also guessing when marijuana is legal we’ll protect our local stoners and weed merchants.
Girls have to go across the Kansas or Illinois line to resolve female problems, but otherwise Missouri is surprisingly sin friendly.
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Wouldn't it be a nightmare if we got charged the excise tax from BOTH the shipping, and our own states?
If sales and excise taxes are being collected by the vendor, then they are supposed to be remitting it to the state(s) for the customers.
Excise tax goes to the state in which the transaction was initiated. So, the buyer pays to tax to the state in which he or she lives.
While companies that employ lawyers, accountants and e-commerce programmers can negotiate their way through such bureaucratic entanglements, I am glad that I no longer feel compelled to keep track of it all.
Jack Daniels is made in a dry county.
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Moore County, where the Jack Daniel's distillery is located, is one of the state's many dry counties. While it is legal to distill the product within the county, it is illegal to purchase it there.
On a state level, Tennessee has imposed stringent requirements. To be labeled as Tennessee whiskey, it is not enough under state law that the whiskey be produced in Tennessee; it must meet quality and production standards. These are the same standards used by Jack Daniel's Distillery, and some other distillers are displeased with the requirements being enshrined into law.[49][50]
On May 13, 2013, Tennessee Governor Bill Haslam signed House Bill 1084, requiring the Lincoln County process to be used for products produced in the state labeling themselves as "Tennessee Whiskey", with a particular exception tailored to exempt Benjamin Prichard's, and including the existing requirements for bourbon.[50][51] As federal law requires statements of origin on labels to be accurate, the Tennessee law effectively gives a firm definition to Tennessee whiskey, requiring Tennessee origin, maple charcoal filtering by the Lincoln County process prior to aging, and the basic requirements of bourbon (at least 51% corn, new oak barrels, charring of the barrels, and limits on alcohol by volume concentration for distillation, aging, and bottling).
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Flora Farms grows premium marijuana in Missouri, creates premium cannabis products, and provides a friendly customer experience at our dispensaries.
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Sole source, Humansville Missouri.
All of the school property taxes paid by the largest cultivator of medical weed on the planet go here.
Humansville R-IV School District
www.humansville.k12.mo.us
Humansville R-IV School District is a public school district located in Humansville, MO. It has 322 students in grades PK, K-12 with a student-teacher ratio of 9 to 1. According to state test scores, 37% of students are at least proficient in math and 42% in reading.
All the library taxes paid go here:Polk County Library – Your Community Resource
www.polkcolibrary.org
The oldest Christian Church in Humansville is here:
Humansville Christian Church
Humansville Christian Church is a Christian Churches and Churches of Christ church in Humansville, MO
www.faithstreet.com
The most famous local country star is Tea Goans.
And Missouri Governor Mike Parson owns a farm in the Humansville R IV school district.
He’s been a happily married man for nearly fifty years, doesn’t get his hair cut at the beauty shop, and has never tied up his barber in his basement.
Mike Parson - Wikipedia
Taxes, can work miracles in Humansville , we surely hope and pray.
Half and Half is $3.49 a package and cigarettes less than $20 a carton in Humansville, soon to have the world’s largest cannabis dispensary.
Jack Daniels is made in a dry county.
—-
Moore County, where the Jack Daniel's distillery is located, is one of the state's many dry counties. While it is legal to distill the product within the county, it is illegal to purchase it there.
On a state level, Tennessee has imposed stringent requirements. To be labeled as Tennessee whiskey, it is not enough under state law that the whiskey be produced in Tennessee; it must meet quality and production standards. These are the same standards used by Jack Daniel's Distillery, and some other distillers are displeased with the requirements being enshrined into law.[49][50]
On May 13, 2013, Tennessee Governor Bill Haslam signed House Bill 1084, requiring the Lincoln County process to be used for products produced in the state labeling themselves as "Tennessee Whiskey", with a particular exception tailored to exempt Benjamin Prichard's, and including the existing requirements for bourbon.[50][51] As federal law requires statements of origin on labels to be accurate, the Tennessee law effectively gives a firm definition to Tennessee whiskey, requiring Tennessee origin, maple charcoal filtering by the Lincoln County process prior to aging, and the basic requirements of bourbon (at least 51% corn, new oak barrels, charring of the barrels, and limits on alcohol by volume concentration for distillation, aging, and bottling).
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Flora Farms produces the best tasting, safest, healthiest, most natural cannabis on this planet!
It’s good for what ails you!
Flora Farms | Missouri Marijuana Cultivator & Dispensary
Flora Farms grows premium marijuana in Missouri, creates premium cannabis products, and provides a friendly customer experience at our dispensaries.
florafarmsmo.com
Sole source, Humansville Missouri.
All of the school property taxes paid by the largest cultivator of medical weed on the planet go here.
Humansville R-IV School District
www.humansville.k12.mo.us
Humansville R-IV School District is a public school district located in Humansville, MO. It has 322 students in grades PK, K-12 with a student-teacher ratio of 9 to 1. According to state test scores, 37% of students are at least proficient in math and 42% in reading.
View attachment 162802All the library taxes paid go here:
Polk County Library – Your Community Resource
www.polkcolibrary.org
The oldest Christian Church in Humansville is here:
Humansville Christian Church
Humansville Christian Church is a Christian Churches and Churches of Christ church in Humansville, MO
www.faithstreet.com
The most famous local country star is Tea Goans.
And Missouri Governor Mike Parson owns a farm in the Humansville R IV school district.
He’s been a happily married man for nearly fifty years, doesn’t get his hair cut at the beauty shop, and has never tied up his barber in his basement.
Mike Parson - Wikipedia
Taxes, can work miracles in Humansville , we surely hope and pray.
Half and Half is $3.49 a package and cigarettes less than $20 a carton in Humansville, soon to have the world’s largest cannabis dispensary, only a short drive north of Branson Missouri.
Stop giving law make ideas. Get them cellars stocked and make some room for food water and ammo.
I'm not quite sure what my quoted post has to do with any of this.Jack Daniels is made in a dry county.
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Moore County, where the Jack Daniel's distillery is located, is one of the state's many dry counties. While it is legal to distill the product within the county, it is illegal to purchase it there.
On a state level, Tennessee has imposed stringent requirements. To be labeled as Tennessee whiskey, it is not enough under state law that the whiskey be produced in Tennessee; it must meet quality and production standards. These are the same standards used by Jack Daniel's Distillery, and some other distillers are displeased with the requirements being enshrined into law.[49][50]
On May 13, 2013, Tennessee Governor Bill Haslam signed House Bill 1084, requiring the Lincoln County process to be used for products produced in the state labeling themselves as "Tennessee Whiskey", with a particular exception tailored to exempt Benjamin Prichard's, and including the existing requirements for bourbon.[50][51] As federal law requires statements of origin on labels to be accurate, the Tennessee law effectively gives a firm definition to Tennessee whiskey, requiring Tennessee origin, maple charcoal filtering by the Lincoln County process prior to aging, and the basic requirements of bourbon (at least 51% corn, new oak barrels, charring of the barrels, and limits on alcohol by volume concentration for distillation, aging, and bottling).
—-
Flora Farms produces the best tasting, safest, healthiest, most natural cannabis on this planet!
It’s good for what ails you!
Flora Farms | Missouri Marijuana Cultivator & Dispensary
Flora Farms grows premium marijuana in Missouri, creates premium cannabis products, and provides a friendly customer experience at our dispensaries.
Sole source, Humansville Missouri.
All of the school property taxes paid by the largest cultivator of medical weed on the planet go here.
Humansville R-IV School District
Humansville R-IV School District is a public school district located in Humansville, MO. It has 322 students in grades PK, K-12 with a student-teacher ratio of 9 to 1. According to state test scores, 37% of students are at least proficient in math and 42% in reading.
View attachment 162802All the library taxes paid go here:
Polk County Library – Your Community Resource
The oldest Christian Church in Humansville is here:
Humansville Christian Church
Humansville Christian Church is a Christian Churches and Churches of Christ church in Humansville, MOwww.faithstreet.com
The most famous local country star is Tea Goans.
And Missouri Governor Mike Parson owns a farm in the Humansville R IV school district.
He’s been a happily married man for nearly fifty years, doesn’t get his hair cut at the beauty shop, and has never tied up his barber in his basement.
Mike Parson - Wikipedia
en.m.wikipedia.org
Taxes, can work miracles in Humansville , we surely hope and pray.
Half and Half is $3.49 a package and cigarettes less than $20 a carton in Humansville, soon to have the world’s largest cannabis dispensary, only a short drive north of Branson Missouri.
Every state is hungry for voluntary donations like excise taxes on products that are not strict necessities, like alcohol, tobacco, lotteries, casino fees, and now these days, the wonderful medicinal marijuana!
Isn’t it a blessed coincidence marijuana peddlers chose the address of the farm owned by Governor Mike Parson to build a medical cannabis cultivation factory so large that you could fly a drone inside of three enormous barns, and still growing?
And then Sac Osage Electric built an enormous power sub station by the barns! Glory be, what a miracle!
I own a home in Humansville my mother built brand new in 2001 when she moved from the farm to town. My local city taxes are so cheap I forget what they are, maybe $30? Less than one Lee Star Grade, anyway.
The home across the street is abandoned.
The back yard fence conceals an abandoned mobile home.
Three homes to the South there’s a shack with big Pitt Bull dogs chained up that has big signs NO TRESPASSING and BEWARE OF DOG and WE DON’T CALL 911 with a pistol pointed at you.
Ragged little children play in the streets littered with dollar whiskey bottles.
Humansville is a low tax paradise, but you’d never want to live there.
At the request of Flora Farms, they were annexed into the city of Humansville.
This made them quite popular in the Governor’s Mansion, I’m sure.
Just guessing, but I think all the online retailers of tobacco are located where tobacco farmers are really popular.
I’m 64 years old, and I’m the youngest person in Humansville that can take you right to where, the last moonshine still in the Ozark foothills was. It’s about two miles south of Big Tussle, in Spout Spring Hollow, just across the Polk County line.
There are four different Thunder Roads a mountain boy could chose to leave that site.
Edgar “Uncle Joe” Buchanan was Humansville’s most famous resident before Governor Mike Parson.
Taxes are, a necessary good.
They educate little hillbillies, in all the little Humansvilles.
The taxes you complain about educate children.
If you don’t want to pay them, don’t smoke.
Our mothers were against smoking, remember?
You need to work on your reading comprehension. I didn't complain about taxes. I said that I was happy to not have to keep track of the bureaucracy surrounding tobacco.
My rant about taxes and the gross inefficiencies and inherent corruption endemic to funneling tax dollars through government to fund essential services like education would be off-topic here
A few years ago, an old lady approached me in a pawn shop.
She was circulating a ballot initiative petition for a 15 cent state sales tax.
Missouri has this sales tax now.
The state sales tax rate is 4.225%. Cities, counties and certain districts may also impose local sales taxes as well, so the amount of tax sellers collect from the purchaser depends on the combined state and local rate at the location of the seller.
She said it would make it a Fair Tax.
Fairer to lawyers like me, not a little old lady on social security spending every dime she makes every month.
Let the lawyers tally up the sin taxes.
If I owned a tobacco shop and the state required me to collect excise tax for them, I wouldn't pay them a dime. I would never apply for a retail license and if they didn't catch it which most states don't I would be a ghost. I was a ghost for 20 years I would roll the dice, put the money into a safety deposit box. If ever audited I do my Mickey the Dunce act and pretend I was a moron bordering on retardation and ask them what is an excise tax. Do I have to pay it to the mfg. Do I have to pay it to the growers? Do I have to pay it to my customers> I just don't understand, can you help me understand as I would never do anything against the law. If they audit you and that is a big if. if you play the game right, you can get away with it for decades.
Just make sure you check to make sure you could never go to jail for it and the worst they can do is fine or penalize you. Ang good accountant or lawyer can advice you on how to do it. don't lay down for these tax slime, you need to find out the most important things that trigger an audit. Home offices, righting off gas for your car, all kinds of mickle and dime shit that raises flags, do your due diligence before you begin,
Also never sign any paperwork that your accountant and attorney have not read. The IRS doesn't need to know you have both waiting in the wings, use the Mickey the Dunce act first. Trust me it works.
Just make sure you check to make sure you could never go to jail for it and the worst they can do is fine or penalize you. Ang good accountant or lawyer can advice you on how to do it. don't lay down for these tax slime, you need to find out the most important things that trigger an audit. Home offices, righting off gas for your car, all kinds of mickle and dime shit that raises flags, do your due diligence before you begin,
Also never sign any paperwork that your accountant and attorney have not read. The IRS doesn't need to know you have both waiting in the wings, use the Mickey the Dunce act first. Trust me it works.
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My local independent pipe shop got locally grandfathered into having a smoking table in the shop where people can sit and smoke pipes and cigars. The crowning touch is a note taped to the glass on the front door written in pencil stating that if you enter, you may encounter tobacco smoke. The whole deal is astonishingly human and right-minded. It makes it an even more special place.