in my humble opinion
I think there's a serious glitch in my computer.
in my humble opinion
Love it whe none of these old timers show up, still as they were made. The blast is nothing special and there appears to be some wear at one area of the bowl where the staining has rubbed away.![]()
Dunhill’s Shell! UNSMOKED Early (20-24) Patent English Estate Pipe In Ex Con! | eBay
<p> </p><p>Amazing! Drill marks on chamber interior, some remnants of original price tag in chamber. Incredible!</p><br /><br /><p>I restore almost all of my listings myself, so if you’ve got pipes you wanna sell let’s talk!</p><br /><p>INTERNATIONAL CUSTOMERS PLEASE READ</p><p>Due to packages...www.ebay.com
Love it whe none of these old timers show up, still as they were made. The blast is nothing special and there appears to be some wear at one area of the bowl where the staining has rubbed away.
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Dunhill’s Shell! UNSMOKED Early (20-24) Patent English Estate Pipe In Ex Con! | eBay
<p> </p><p>Amazing! Drill marks on chamber interior, some remnants of original price tag in chamber. Incredible!</p><br /><br /><p>I restore almost all of my listings myself, so if you’ve got pipes you wanna sell let’s talk!</p><br /><p>INTERNATIONAL CUSTOMERS PLEASE READ</p><p>Due to packages...www.ebay.com
Fishy. I smell a sham. It makes no sense and the "seller" has one pos. review.This Dunhill set sold for $2,205 just days ago:
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Vintage Alfred Dunhill Ltd. Set of Pipes Dunhill Shell Briar Sherlock London | eBay
<p>From local estate. Nice set of 3 vintage Dunhill Pipes in original case. All pipes have been used but remain in overall nice condition. All the pipes are marked Dunhill Shell Briar. The case has some wear, mostly to the edges but still pretty nice shape as well. If you have any questions...www.ebay.com
And now it's up for sale from a French seller for half the previous selling price. (I can't provide the link as it's active)
Nice set, how close can we get to dating it ?This Dunhill set sold for $2,205 just days ago:
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Vintage Alfred Dunhill Ltd. Set of Pipes Dunhill Shell Briar Sherlock London | eBay
<p>From local estate. Nice set of 3 vintage Dunhill Pipes in original case. All pipes have been used but remain in overall nice condition. All the pipes are marked Dunhill Shell Briar. The case has some wear, mostly to the edges but still pretty nice shape as well. If you have any questions...www.ebay.com
And now it's up for sale from a French seller for half the previous selling price. (I can't provide the link as it's active)
We need to tread carefully here, but I did not feel comfortable with this one.I can't tell for sure without having the pipe in hand, but if unsmoked, why does the inside of the chamber look to have been significantly sanded (marks, plus the sharp inner rim edge keeps screaming, "Look at me! Look at me!"); have should-have-been-easily-seen-by-QA-at-the-time vertical cracks; have patches of undercolor (cordovan) which looks to have been used to camouflage the naked wood after sanding; and the outside of the bowl show handling wear?
It also has many tiny "tells" both external and internal which indicate it was "restored" by someone... If never smoked, why would would that be necessary? Especially, why would the INTERNALS show signs of manipulation/use?
Unused pipes in "as found" condition look quite different.
Hm.
It is possible that those things were somehow characteristic of the VERY earliest Dunhill production when procedures were still being worked out, but if so it would be the first I've heard it.
Somewhere between 1921 and 1931. Split the difference and say 1926. Too little resolution to read the numbers, but the words "Dunhill's Shell Briar" were used during that point in time, according to Pipephil's elaborate and disjointed Dunhill dating guide.Nice set, how close can we get to dating it ?
Yep, my notion too .Somewhere between 1921 and 1931. Split the difference and say 1926. Too little resolution to read the numbers, but the words "Dunhill's Shell Briar" were used during that point in time, according to Pipephil's elaborate and disjointed Dunhill dating guide.
This may be all that everyone says it is, or it may be an over zealous and not terribly expert job of applying lipstick to an unsmoked pig. Never make conclusions based off of photographs, unless they're really expertly done photographs, which none of these are. I know a lot about how photographs can lie. That was an ancillary part of my career for 4 decades.We need to tread carefully here, but I did not feel comfortable with this one.
The most refurbished "unsmoked " pipe I've ever seen. The blast does not speak to me one bit, but that is
a matter of taste. The blast also lost it "sharp edges " and the bowl seems way to glossy for an unsmoked pipe that age.
I suspect the seller perked it up for sale. Not really thought through entirely, but it did not deter the winner .
There is some rim ( stain ) wear ( to my eye ) and the inner edge looks way to sharp.
What puzzles me most is the condition of the chamber. I''ve never seen "drill marks" in an unsmoked pipe.
Not in a smoked one either, for that matter. Look like sanding marks to me. Marks from the chuck (?) happen in both unsmoked and lightly smoked pipes and might indicate something positive. There are scars, or cracks, in the chamber and as George pointed out it looks to have had a touch of diluted stain. I cannot tell about the mortise, but it does not look entirely clean.
Stem looks fine, residu of lint and some scatches on the innertube .
Some years ago I purchased an " unsmoked " Preben Holm Zodiac pipe from a German seller.
It was a lovely smooth pipe , showing wonderful grain and I bought it for a song, but I suspected a refurbished one. Chuck marks were still to be seen, but the bowl was reamed and sanded. I contacted the seller and he responded quite offended and defensive.
Some searching turned out he won it on Ebay , cleaned it up and resold it as unsmoked. His profit was maybe $10,00 .
Bloody ridiculous and I pestered him with my mails for quite a while.
Wow!. Was watching this one. But didn't see what it went for.![]()
Dunhill’s Shell! UNSMOKED Early (20-24) Patent English Estate Pipe In Ex Con! | eBay
<p> </p><p>Amazing! Drill marks on chamber interior, some remnants of original price tag in chamber. Incredible!</p><br /><br /><p>I restore almost all of my listings myself, so if you’ve got pipes you wanna sell let’s talk!</p><br /><p>INTERNATIONAL CUSTOMERS PLEASE READ</p><p>Due to packages...www.ebay.com
Thank you ! Wonderful. What a steal you lucky b....As promised. Technically “not” eBay, but the same bastards own our small kiwi trading site regardless. Price converted to usd is $27.50
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Wow! A real beauty!A very late reply, but I just saw this and thought you and @greeneyes would find of interest. From what I can tell from the pics the date letter is 1921. I’ll post better pics when it lands
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Dave,As promised. Technically “not” eBay, but the same bastards own our small kiwi trading site regardless. Price converted to usd is $27.50
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