Has Sir Walter Raleigh Original Changed Recently?

[JimInks]

Sorry for Off Topic, if anyone can let go of a couple of pouches, or a 7oz tin of the Georgia blend, or who has them online, please send me a PM. Thanks

P.S. It would be nice for Jim to review if he hasn’t.

I haven't. Don't have either of them in my "cellar".

 

[romaso]

Do they make a Match blend of SWR? They do for CH (Chatham Manor) & PA (Duke Albert), but I haven't seen one for SWR.

 

[JimInks]

Do they make a Match blend of SWR? They do for CH (Chatham Manor) & PA (Duke Albert), but I haven't seen one for SWR.

They did not. They made matches of John Middleton blends when they were discontinued. It was thought that CH and PA might not stick around in the purge, so matches were made of them.

 

[Andrew Womble]

Sorry for Off Topic, if anyone can let go of a couple of pouches, or a 7oz tin of the Georgia blend, or who has them online, please send me a PM. Thanks

P.S. It would be nice for Jim to review if he hasn’t.

I have some SWR to spare from my 14 oz tub made in the old Tucker, GA location. I can also spare some from my 7 oz tub made in Denmark. I also bought a pouch of SWR made in Denmark which I think has a more noticeable topping than the 7 oz tub which I'm also happy to share. I'm fairly new to this platform so not entirely sure how to PM you.

 

[paulfg]

I have some SWR to spare from my 14 oz tub made in the old Tucker, GA location. I can also spare some from my 7 oz tub made in Denmark. I also bought a pouch of SWR made in Denmark which I think has a more noticeable topping than the 7 oz tub which I'm also happy to share. I'm fairly new to this platform so not entirely sure how to PM you.

click on pipeIT avatar beside one of his posts and a start pm will appear below his details

 

[f4phantomdriver]

I can say that Sir Walter Raleigh as we know it has passed away with the do do bird. The Scandinavian Tobacco Co. version is completely horrid. Both SWR regular and aromatic were my all day smoke for years before I changed to Prince Albert. Lanes SWR was more like dry chunky granola the the best taste and the most pleasant pipey room note. Now it's ribbon cheaply made garbage that smells like putrid vinegar. I bought 6 tubs of regular and aromatic before the old stock dried up. I actually did that with all the old Lane blends except Granger. I had a very weird premonition that Denmark was going to ruin my beloved Lane Limited blends so I spend a lot of cash stocking up on stuff when they made the announcement that the Tucker plant was closing.

 

[elvishrunes]

I guess I have a rare tobacco then. Bought this SWR aro pouch in 2021, smoked a bowl and although it smelled good, liquorice chocolate didn’t have enough nic and body to keep me interested, so I cellared it and used the pouch for daily adventures…

it says produced by STG lane limited made in Tucker Georgia on the back, guess I’ll try another bowl and give it a proper ball jar!

 

[InWithBothFeet]

Smoking pipes still lists this as a made in usa tobacco. I think they may be a little behind on current events.

"Sir Walter Raleigh pipe tobacco was first introduced in 1927 and is currently produced in the United States. Sir Walter himself was introduced quite a bit earlier, the 1500s in fact, and became known for many deeds of valor and courage, as well as the man who popularized smoking in Europe. Sir Walter Raleigh's Aromatic is a unique blend of aged Burley and Virginia tobaccos flavored with imported French and Dutch liqueurs for a rich aroma and a mellow, comfortable smoke."

 

[GreatWhiteNorthPiper]

I hope they haven't changed the recipe but given that they may be using tobaccos sourced from a different place, I'd say it's inevitable. I can't stand the aromatic version. Regular is a great tobacco for an OTC blend.

 

[geoffs]

So is all new SWR a vinegar flavored ribbon cut? Was this a one-off accident or is this the new recipe?
This was my go-to pouch tobacco and I just emptied another pouch... I had assumed nobody would dare mess with a classic. This is like remixing Sgt Pepper as EDM and burning the masters. Sacrilege.

 

[BlueMaxx]

There is still Velvet...

 

[LeafErikson]

I am now a thread necromancer... I've been smoking through a Danish production 7oz tin of the aromatic version and I am of the opinion that it is relatively unchanged. It's still absolutely delightful. The 7oz tin I have of the regular version that was manufactured in Denmark is terrible.

 

[Briar Lee]

I am now a thread necromancer... I've been smoking through a Danish production 7oz tin of the aromatic version and I am of the opinion that it is relatively unchanged. It's still absolutely delightful. The 7oz tin I have of the regular version that was manufactured in Denmark is terrible.

The regular SWR dates to 1938 and the aromatic is much more recent, and entirely different cut, from the 70s. I’m older than the aromatic.

When all the codger blends (except Amphora and Borkum Riff) were American made they had skilled buyers of American leaf.

1953 Lucky ad

Flue cured (Virginia) tobacco is still USDA graded but the burley in the 1938 SWR formula is not. That’s not to say it’s not graded, but the graders are self regulated.

That might explain the differnces.

 

[Living Luggage]

I like the Aro blend more than I probably should. Reminds me of a molasses/cinnamon cake. that Granny made. How much longer will the aesthetic of tobacco blending be able to survive?

 

[Snook]

I recently ordered two pouches each of the regular and aromatic versions. Smoked the regular yesterday and it is noticeably different from some I have left over from 2019 or so. I wouldn't say it's "bad", but it definitely isn't what it once was. I didn't get overwhelming vinegar notes like some have mentioned.

 

[LeafErikson]

I recently ordered two pouches each of the regular and aromatic versions. Smoked the regular yesterday and it is noticeably different from some I have left over from 2019 or so. I wouldn't say it's "bad", but it definitely isn't what it once was. I didn't get overwhelming vinegar notes like some have mentioned.

I have a regular 7oz tub from 2024 and it's not what it once was, even as recently as 2022. Something quite drastic has changed (maybe in leaf sourcing or equipment) even since STG started production.

 

[Snook]

I have a regular 7oz tub from 2024 and it's not what it once was, even as recently as 2022. Something quite drastic has changed (maybe in leaf sourcing or equipment) even since STG started production.

STG: "I don't think we fucked this one up enough. Let's revisit it."

 

[LeafErikson]

STG: "I don't think we fucked this one up enough. Let's revisit it."

"I can't quite read that ingredient. What does that say? 1 liter of apple cider vinegar? You sure man? Fuck it, sounds good to me."

 

[FurCoat]

Jim recently did a review on the new stuff. Check out pipe tobacco reviews on the forums.